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CSM member using his know-how to make profit in market?

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Baron Holbach
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2014-05-21 19:37:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Baron Holbach
I was one of the probably many who lost some isk related to freighter changes when try'ng to buy up materials needed to build capital t2 cargo rigs, sometimes you win - sometimes loss.

However now checking over my market alt logs i notice something VERY STRANGE. Same minute when CCP Fozzie made his post about new freighters changes, was char named corestwo selling "Single-crystal Superalloy I-beam", what is main component for t2 cargo rigs to, sell orders. However corestwo (check his bio) is alt of Mynnna - member of CSM, who probably was some inside knowledge about change to come. And so it may be possible that he was just waiting dev post to cash in this bubble, or maybe it was just random lucky shoot.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4622061#post4622061 <--- CCP Fozzie post (made 2014.05.21 14:29)

http://www.upload.ee/image/4065933/corestwo_transaction.png <-- corestwo selling "Single-crystal Superalloy I-beam"-s
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#2 - 2014-05-21 19:52:01 UTC
Grrrr, Mynnna.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#3 - 2014-05-21 22:36:43 UTC
Well there's supposedly this really neat thing call CCP IA that will look into this. One quick report and you to can have a CSM member kicked into the ditch.

If it's true...
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-05-21 22:58:01 UTC
Well, you can believe it really was a stroke of luck on my part, or you can go the frothing irrationality route and choose to believe that I'd risk my seat & possibly my accounts for a measly 3-4b profit (since I'd bought them well into the bubble myself) when my hangar looks like this. Well, looked like that anyway, that screenshot's a few months old.

Your choice, no skin off my back either way.




PS, anyone interested in these several dozen runs of ME-2 Capital Cargohold Optimization BPCs? Oops

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

Laughable Xhosa Girl
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-05-22 01:03:40 UTC
space-pennies
corebloodbrothers
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-05-22 11:39:37 UTC
http://jestertrek.blogspot.nl

Has a article about this one, and more special jesters sale of beams, as his mentioning of csm 8, and reference too mynna. He also refers too csm and alt hangars being under audit. Which makes sense

For myself, once i was reading jester mentioning alloyed beams price rise, i logged in my jita alt and sold all 36 beams i owned, ranting on myself for not havign invested before csm. As csm i cant obviously. I can onky sell what i owned prior based on public knowledge. I banged my head as i was tempted to add beams a while ago to my buy and store collection.

If i look around my hangar, i see huge stacks of stuff i invested in over the years, thta might or might not ever become valauble. Alot of intact salvage for example, is dirt cheap atm 2- 6000 a piece. So obviously some poeple stock as stock in bulk. I aslo collect cheap tags, as those prices fluctuate. Another example is t1 high meta gear, with future changesi stocked on that before time. And what to think of faction hardners selling for 40 k, u can bet i stock up if i have some spare isk to invest. Beats blink or any isk gamble. I slso stock up on npc provided gear, u never know if it gets removed and rises in price, worst case the loss is minimum. Or chesp intact wormhole salvage, why not stock up 1 million units when they cost 100 isk a pice. The dude who auditsm y cans, i owudl luv to see his face.

I cannot speak for other csm members but hope and asume that the insane amount of time they invest reflects their passion and dedication. For Mynnna in the position within goons and being kinda space rich, there woudl be no reason.

I do see for myself a hightend awareness because of csm, i read every dev blog and player opinion, so that tends to keep eve 24 h a day on your mind, leading to new market insights, but never based on csm infom always public domain.

Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2014-05-22 13:43:21 UTC
all pro speculators have an rss feed of devposts and follow all devs on twitter fyi

all good speculators knew about that post instantly
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-05-22 15:37:43 UTC
Retar Aveymone wrote:
all pro speculators have an rss feed of devposts and follow all devs on twitter fyi

all good speculators knew about that post instantly


True pros setup page monitor in chrome or something similar and have it set to watch the op of change threads since in this case (as is usually the case) OP gets edited before a "hey I edited the OP" post is made. Bear

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Shadow Cartel
#9 - 2014-05-22 15:48:17 UTC
Also worth pointing out that waiting for the dev post is literally the thing you're supposed to do as a CSM. Roll

Alek the Kidnapper, Hero of the CSM

Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-05-22 15:55:43 UTC
In the end the TITLE of the post is right but the insinuation within the OP isn't (probably)

Mynnna does use his skills and 'know how' to trade. What do you expect of a guy who is part of the evil goon financial wing?

But as has been said before, we of the CSM get audited. If they think that we used insider trading or NDA knowledge to make beaucoup buckeroos then you are (probably) wrong. It has been done before and the offender was removed from the CSM and the isk removed from his acct. The running joke is that CCP will spend 5 minutes auditing my accts and two hours going over Mynnnas . . .

So this thread is almost an insult to poor little Bee Mynnna, do you honestly think he is so arrogant/stupid as to make huge NDA breaking trades on one of his known mains? At least credit him with the intelligence to try to hide chicanery behind a cutout or storefront alt. Hell, read the above post and take notes, maybe next time you can be the guy who SEEMS to have the inside track on trades.

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Mike Azariah  ┬──┬ ¯|(ツ)

Revolution Rising
Last-Light Holdings
#11 - 2014-05-24 14:15:16 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
It has been done before and the offender was removed from the CSM and the isk removed from his acct.


*Looks suspicious* Was he wearing a wizard hat by chance ?

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#12 - 2014-05-24 14:57:48 UTC
Revolution Rising wrote:
Mike Azariah wrote:
It has been done before and the offender was removed from the CSM and the isk removed from his acct.


*Looks suspicious* Was he wearing a wizard hat by chance ?


No. Mittens is not really a mathsy finance guy.

Read on: http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=4_38&page=1

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