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Averyn Fallou
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-05-22 07:03:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Averyn Fallou
Hi All Capsuleers!

I have created this new alt to start a project called FEDERAL POLICE.

My vision is that someday there would be a police force (or several of them) run by players .
Players that would co-operate together under the laws set by this police force.

No game system is perfect and there could be ways to exploit this some twisted way, but...

Key issue would be the ethics of this police force and if player is found violating the ethics, will be kicked out from the corporation.
We would seek no fortune, but would make some money to cover our costs (maybe with relevantly high tax).

So really, I only have my vision, my ethics and that's all.

I want to open discussion on what those ethics should cover and I ask you to think also how we could build a trustworthy police that can be seen in high, low and in null sec.

Some ethics that comes to my mind and I hope you ppl can come up with much more:

1. Sovereignty owners can do what ever they want on their territory. - if police is attacked we respond with fire.
2. Wars between corps/alliances we stay out of them.
3. Gate-camps (no sov owner) are our targets.
4. Criminals are our targets.

There are plenty of more ethics to follow and with these 4 there might also be problems from game mechanics. But still I believe this would be nice journey for such a police force...

About me: 43y, played since 2009. EU timezone.

Please, lets have a good discussion on this...

-Averyn
Purity by Fire
Purity Tax Haven
#2 - 2014-05-22 07:08:28 UTC
High sec = Concord
Low sec = Gate guns
Null Sec = who cares

Problem you have is that it will not work at all, not one bit.

I would explain why but tbh I actually cant be bothered because my head hurts this morning

So like after 76 petitions I still dont have a logical normal answer.   Fly safe and fly true and use your headset on the Loo
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2014-05-22 07:09:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Wat?

You have a vision and ethics, but want discussion on what your ethics should be?

Do you also want discussion on what your vision should be? It seems a little unclear at the moment. Hunt gate camps and criminals. Might need some more depth.
Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#4 - 2014-05-22 07:12:30 UTC
Already exists. The police force is called the New Order and the Code is the law.
Big Lynx
#5 - 2014-05-22 07:17:59 UTC
Alyth Nerun wrote:
Already exists. The police force is called the New Order and the Code is the law.


ROFLMAO
Averyn Fallou
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-05-22 07:21:32 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Wat?

You have a vision and ethics, but want discussion on what your ethics should be?

Do you also want discussion on what your vision should be? It seems a little unclear at the moment. Hunt gate camps and criminals. Might need some more depth.


Exactly :-)
Its not about following one mans vision, but bringing ppl together with similar vision and honing what would be the ethics of such a police force.

That is really good point you made, thanx!

-Averyn
Edmond Lewis
Of Tears and ISK
#7 - 2014-05-22 07:23:25 UTC
Alyth Nerun wrote:
Already exists. The police force is called the New Order and the Code is the law.

no, your a pack of petty extorionists

and as for Averyn
first, this probley is the wrong forum section for this
second, while there needs to be a way to be Concord sanctioned law in this game, currently there isn't
so what you want to do is barely workable
Averyn Fallou
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-05-22 07:26:49 UTC
Purity by Fire wrote:
High sec = Concord
Low sec = Gate guns
Null Sec = who cares

Problem you have is that it will not work at all, not one bit.

I would explain why but tbh I actually cant be bothered because my head hurts this morning


Maybe it could, maybe not :-)

Please, contribute once headache is cleared.

-Averyn
DrSmegma
Smegma United
#9 - 2014-05-22 07:33:29 UTC
The game mechanics don't support this. They don't support much at all, actually.

Eve too complicated? Try Astrum Regatta.
Grunanca
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-05-22 07:54:10 UTC
I hope you manage this, while I doubt it will succeed. We can always use more targets in low sec to fight. Just remember not only to go for gatecamps. Some of the low sec corps are not really into that much.
Averyn Fallou
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-05-22 07:57:05 UTC
Thanks for your comments!

What would it take to make this a workable project?
Do you think the main reason that it would not work, is the game mechanics?

Personally I think that, with a good set of 'internal rules of engagement' call them ethics or something. This could be a nice addition to EVE universe.

If the ethics of police force is well set and Police don't tolerate violation of these rules in their ranks, the Police force could survive and expand.

-Averyn
skintsaint
Wombo United
#12 - 2014-05-22 08:00:14 UTC
Averyn Fallou wrote:


Key issue would be the ethics of this police force


They can't solve this problem in the real world.....not much chance of it working ingame.

If it goes ahead, can I sit in the front and put the sirens on? Have always wanted to do that..
Averyn Fallou
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-05-22 08:02:07 UTC
Grunanca wrote:
I hope you manage this, while I doubt it will succeed. We can always use more targets in low sec to fight. Just remember not only to go for gatecamps. Some of the low sec corps are not really into that much.

I will not succeed in this alone :-). Police force of one man...
Yeah, it would provide more targets in low sec.

-Averyn
Averyn Fallou
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-05-22 08:07:14 UTC
skintsaint wrote:
Averyn Fallou wrote:


Key issue would be the ethics of this police force


They can't solve this problem in the real world.....not much chance of it working ingame.

If it goes ahead, can I sit in the front and put the sirens on? Have always wanted to do that..


Yes, you can sit in my Police Pursuit Comet :-D

-Averyn
Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#15 - 2014-05-22 08:13:06 UTC
Edmond Lewis wrote:
Alyth Nerun wrote:
Already exists. The police force is called the New Order and the Code is the law.

no, your a pack of petty extorionists

That's what all the rebels say, but the reality looks a bit different and deep down you know it. It always astonishing what stories people make up about us to justify their ore theft and other serious crimes. Extortion, seriously? It's called taxes friend and if you don't pay them guess who will come after you?
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#16 - 2014-05-22 08:19:52 UTC
Alyth Nerun wrote:
Edmond Lewis wrote:
Alyth Nerun wrote:
Already exists. The police force is called the New Order and the Code is the law.

no, your a pack of petty extorionists

That's what all the rebels say, but the reality looks a bit different and deep down you know it. It always astonishing what stories people make up about us to justify their ore theft and other serious crimes. Extortion, seriously? It's called taxes friend and if you don't pay them guess who will come after you?



Sounds like someone doesn't want to obey the Code, or pay for a permit, and is butthurt about getting blown up.....

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Qmamoto Kansuke
Killing with pink power
Penguins with lasorz
#17 - 2014-05-22 08:25:11 UTC
You missed the most important part the salary bro, nobody is going to work on such a dangerous job without a decent income.You better have very very deep pockets...Idea
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#18 - 2014-05-22 08:25:13 UTC
And this is why bounties need to be framed in a contract system so that corporations like this can focus on targets and not blindly flail about trying to create flavour where no substance to hold such exists.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Averyn Fallou
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-05-22 08:25:25 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Alyth Nerun wrote:
Edmond Lewis wrote:
Alyth Nerun wrote:
Already exists. The police force is called the New Order and the Code is the law.

no, your a pack of petty extorionists

That's what all the rebels say, but the reality looks a bit different and deep down you know it. It always astonishing what stories people make up about us to justify their ore theft and other serious crimes. Extortion, seriously? It's called taxes friend and if you don't pay them guess who will come after you?



Sounds like someone doesn't want to obey the Code, or pay for a permit, and is butthurt about getting blown up.....


Hey guys! back to the topic here Big smile

-Averyn
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#20 - 2014-05-22 08:26:14 UTC
Averyn Fallou wrote:

I have created this new alt to start a project called FEDERAL POLICE.
-Averyn


*looks left*

"Averyn Fallou
FEDERATION POLICE"

Oh you!

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