Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Carrying 8bil of stuff without escort... Freighter pilot haz braen damaege

Tech3 with cloak and nulifier.

Cloaky BR, my alt has had the same one since they could fit a cloak. It is fitted for maximum cargo capacity which includes tech 2 rigs.
Also scouts and friends, if it's too big for that ship use another like a freighter or Orca.
It's amazing just how quick a freighter can get into warp, when webbed. But for that to work, you would need to be in a corp and take the risk of being war decced. Oh the horror.

I'm not complaining, you are and I haven't called anyone names.

For all I know, that freighter could have been a war target hiding in an NPC corp to avoid war decs. Something that is very prevalent in this game. I love it that people can overcome that and still strike back.
But let's face it, carrying that much without help is not the most intelligent move ever.

CCP doesn't need to justify it as they built the game to allow it, you obviously don't understand that. Those people aren't griefing, as that's against the EULA. They aren't using exploits, as that is also against the EULA.

If someone gets so angry with this game, that they resort to throwing their PC out of a window, then it's time for that person to take a break. The over reaction of someone is not the fault of other players, but of themselves.

Nice ad hominem by the way.

I play Eve Online a game created by CCP. I use the term exploit in the way they determine it to applies to their game.
How that term is used elsewhere, is not my concern when discussing the rules and actions within the game.

There is no fuzzy about it. They deem what is and is not an exploit, not the player base.

Your concord example has not been deemed an exploit, it is merely a change to a game mechanic. It is you that seems not to clear, on what the term means with regard to this game.
A good example of an exploit, would be the long term use of a pos to create items out of thin air. This happened over many months and when found, many accounts were banned. It wasn't talked about AT ALL by CCP until they fixed the bug.

Oh, so you don't actually have an argument and agree with what I say. Thank you.

Besides, CCP constantly gives fundamental game mechanic changes to benefit PVP players ALL THE GOD DAMN TIME, its about time high sec players got their turn.

The whole game is not pvp centric, thats the whole purpose behind high sec empire space, thats the reason there is a pve element of the game that is entirely separate from sovereign null space. PVP players make it their business to bring PVP to non PVP players in what we call "exploits" or loopholes in the security system of high sec space. Just because you think CCP put the loopholes there for you, doesnt mean everyone else agree's with you. High sec actually runs just fine with absolutely no pvp going on most of the time.

Secondly this thread wasnt about ending PVP, this thread was about stopping the bullshit maneuvers associated with PVP in empire space. There is a purpose null space exists, and that purpose is to have whatever the player decides to create for a battle happen without interference from NPC's, but this lifestyle of attacking players has intruded so far into the systems that people who dont want to actively associate with PVP players that its making the game unplayable. So far I haven't seen one LEGITIMATE reason from someone who disagrees with me, why they should be able to suicide gank in high sec, or gate camp high sec in surrounding low sec systems so that no one can move outward. The reason for this? Because you people get off on it, thats all, theres no other purpose to it other then that otherwise you would be in null space PVP'ing with purpose.

And as I had said in previous posts, ive been playing the game long enough to know that low sec systems were easily travel-able for some 1v1 pvp action as well as running missions and mining as they were intended when the game was designed, but again, all of this changed because of CCP's "hand holding mechanics" of PVP players wanting to intrude further into high sec space.

Eve is Wild West in space. You expect criminals in the game players portray, like pirates, and nullsec warfare corp greedy power hungry CEOs and members to play nice? Maybe you should leave, and when you leave don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Really, the game is about pvp, and players portraying questionable characters, or criminals for whom killing is like saying "Good morning".

Obviously criminals won't "play nice" and will always want to take advantage of weaknesses in the laws, but the empire should keep up and update and fix those weak spots as necessary.
And btw I met some very nice people in EVE, believe it or not...

I think that removing the security penalty for killing people in low sec would promote pvp there.

I don't pvp with my corporation in low sec because that would prevent me from trading in highsec. I can still fight in null or wormholes, but it still means I miss out on most of the fights :(

C'mon! Do you realize player corps are allowed sovereignty and to declare war because Empires can't enforce law over vast outer space?

Too that would make for a bad gameplay mechanic. You're just trying to pass something that will benefit you personally, without thinking how it will affect the entire game. If you remove pvp, Eve is just shooting rocks, you know! And if you don't wanna get blown up from time to time pvp game isn't for you, anyway.