EVE General Discussion

I'm still holding out hope for that board game looking thing with the mechs and hexes that totally didn't seem like a Battletech ripoff (not that I would mind.) I forget what they called it, but add that game and a betting system and i'll call Incarna a success as far as I'm concerned.

Anyone here played Neverwinter? I've given it a go lately, and the major hangout spot for roleplay in that game is the Moonstone Mask, a brothel where the courtesans are typically wearing rather more than some of the player-character patrons. There's a lot of /dance-ing going on, and people leaving in pairs to go cyber in a private instance somewhere.

It's fun in its way, but it really doesn't strike me as very EVE. I mean, I'm all behind the idea of getting my toon sitting down in a bar drinking a beer and watching the Splinterz while winning a Scorpion in a poker game, but what EVE is about is meaningful action that contributes to an economy founded on cycles of destruction.

Just having a bar where people can strut around wearing an example of the pitifully small catalogue of NeX clothing, sink ISK into imaginary beer and emote at each other is fine from an RP perspective, but - and I say this as an enthusiastic and long-term RPer myself - it's not EVE.

WiS needs content. We need to be able to smuggle, to hack megacorporate servers and steal their data in Neuromancer-style digital heists. We need to be able to pull some Ocean's 11 slick crime on a Poteque cybernetics lab. Bars need to be the place where you meet Hancolm Reylo, captain of the Serene Falcon and his mate Zoebacca and sell him a crate full of less-than-legal goods to ship out to nullsec. Or maybe Captain RoboJudge overhears the conversation and arrives at the below-decks exchange of goods and money, delivering justice with his boot and a ridiculously overpowered gun.

I want to own a casino and sell black-market ship components to members of the VIP lounge. I want to trick my interceptor out with an illegal overcharged MWD that provides a bigger speed boost but overheats faster that I had to buy off a shady character in a bar in Rancer. I want him to have built it from stolen prototype blueprints and experimental technology that Lai Dai would pay good money to get back. I want to get a CONCORD bounty every time I blow up a capsuleer who's using one of those things, and I want to take contracts on behalf of the Caldari State to provide a customs patrol at major highsec gates.

I want to hack an FIO office, steal a folder full of experimental viruses from their mainframe and load them into my data analyzer like charges. Or maybe shoot my way to safety when I screw up and they send a strike team to deal with me.

I want to work side-by-side with dust mercs, using my wealth and connections and neural implants to literally and figuratively open doors for them as they raid a rival corporation's station hangar. I want to explore Sleeper structures to recover advanced biomodifications that I can build into my own clone.

Some of these things are impractical, implausible or just simply never going to happen. But the point is that EVE in Stations could be huge, IF - and only if - it is more than just a vehicle for erotic emotes.

Fill an empty room with humans, and they'll make their own content.

Where others see a pointless bar with no gameplay, I see a station interior with windows, so you can now see if anyone is sat on the undock without needing a second account. Imagine an RP corp is recruiting, and you manage to convince them that you're into that sort of thing by spending long evenings at the bar with them. Eventually they allow you to join their corp, which is when you ransom their Orca. That one meeting place provides a lot of possibilities.

I want everything you said too, however, baby steps. Just the bar, a few corridors, and maybe some NPCs standing around would be a good start. I know EVE players would find a way to make that fun (probably at someone else's expense).

Can't really agree witb you.

What you are saying happens already and does not need a room for people to hang out with.

I mean that your arguments aren't really any,
because they don't add something that's not there already.

No one needs a bar for this and no one ever has,
thus there would be no increase in possibilities.

I'm not against WiS... hey, I want a long Tshirt to wear without pants lol ...
... but I wanted to say this so you can rethink your arguments.

A lot of the suggestions in this thread for WiS interaction are similar to metagaming interactions players have over Mumble/phone/SMS. These others means of communication will always be faster and more personal..

When someone is negotiating corp vs. corp terms I suspect a voice is preferred to an avatar's dead-eye stare in CQ.

I'm not putting WiS down.. I'd like to see more WiS gameplay and I've offered some suggestions before.. but I'm not sure I identify too well with the RP-type suggestions.

/蘭

I just want a clan hall, where corp members can hang out and do things to each others bodies.

I hope you haven't heard this one: So a Capsuleer walks into a bar.
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Why are you not laughing??

I'd like to sneak into another's CQ when they're out and browse their ships, fittings, hangar contents, contracts and other intelligence. And then leave a fedo in their spare pod as a nice surprise when they next switch ships.

Yeah and what I saw of it it looked extremely nice

People keep talking about a poker room and I think its a great idea. Have the door open into a poker/bing room and bar with a TV and a view.

TBH I think the FiS purists might be underestimating how that might affect the game. It would create a new toy in the sandbox that could be used to interact with HS other than the market and hitting the residents with a shovel. We would also benefit from having another way to interact with our Dust/Legion and Valkyrie counterparts.

This isn't an important issue because WiS is going to be amazing. This is an important issue because at fanfest we learned only 10% of the playerbase gets to "dynamic content" and we need a way to really engage with the "leveling my Raven" crowd socially. Getting that 10% to even 11 or 12% would be a big win.