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[ISD, GM's, Dev's] WiS Threads, Can we please keep one?

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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-05-21 06:14:40 UTC
There are lots of people in the community that like discussing WiS. (As evidenced by the massive number of posts that happen on either side of the discussion) The trolls keep forcing them to be locked denying us a place to discuss WiS for those of us that wish to do so. There was a mega threadnaught that got closed. This was a central location for people to discuss and express their support for it rather than starting a new thread every time someone wanted to talk about it. If we need to repeatedly open new threads, every time one gets opened, we'll get the identical "Not this thread again" trolls each time one gets opened, causing redundancy and increased irritation on both sides.

I would like to request that one thread be allowed to remain unlocked for discussion, and for the community volunteers to more actively police that one thread. By allowing the trolls to force lock threads, you deny your players that would like to discuss and express their interest in Avatar and/or WiS based gameplay peacefully.

I have started a new thread for discussing WiS gameplay and for showing your support for it. It can be found HERE

I would like to request that this thread be looked after and kept alive for those of us that do genuinely want to discuss it.
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#2 - 2014-05-21 06:17:05 UTC
Didn't ccp make that thread for redundant 'new' ideas in F&I?

Hows that working out for afk cloaky/local threads Roll
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#3 - 2014-05-21 06:18:43 UTC
Anonymous Forumposter wrote:
[ISD, GM's, Dev's] WiS Threads, Can we please keep one?

Sort of... like a pet?

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-05-21 06:20:53 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Anonymous Forumposter wrote:
[ISD, GM's, Dev's] WiS Threads, Can we please keep one?

Sort of... like a pet?


Precisely.
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
#5 - 2014-05-21 06:26:30 UTC
A Mangy Pet that should have been put down years ago but because the owner is selfish is keeping it alive even though it writhes in pain 24/7?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2014-05-21 06:33:41 UTC
Beyond the door lies a room, where a solitary ISD is rhythmically banging his head on his desk while he asks himself if this thread really needed to exist.





Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-05-21 06:36:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Anonymous Forumposter
Themanfromdalmontee wrote:
A Mangy Pet that should have been put down years ago but because the owner is selfish is keeping it alive even though it writhes in pain 24/7?


While a very colorful metaphor, there are some fundamental differences that make it an inaccurate metaphor.

A forum thread is incapable of feeling therefore incapable of suffering. There is no misery to put it out of.

There is more selfishness in trying to deny people the right to discuss things they're interested in than there is in people wanting to discuss things they're interested in.

The problem isn't the threads about WiS. The problem is the people that seem to be incapable of simply ignoring them. If WiS doesn't interest you, Just ignore the threads.
ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#8 - 2014-05-21 06:37:04 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Beyond the door lies a room, where a solitary ISD is rhythmically banging his head on his desk while he asks himself if this thread really needed to exist.


We have team issued pillows for that purpose... ;-)

ISD Decoy

Captain

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-05-21 06:42:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Anonymous Forumposter
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Beyond the door lies a room, where a solitary ISD is rhythmically banging his head on his desk while he asks himself if this thread really needed to exist.


There is an interest that in itself isn't malicious nor do the threads themselves violate the forums rules, and yet the situation keeps being allowed to degrade to the point where they simply lock the threads and punish everyone rather than just those that choose to disregard forum rules. I understand there's a need to maintain order and root out problems. I don't disagree with this, But locking the threads doesn't solve anything. Those that are abiding by the rules, are the one's that are hurt by the locking. Those that are breaking the rules and are causing problems get rewarded. This seems like a little bit of an ineffective solution.

I'm merely asking to keep a place to discuss it. Locking the threads about WiS doesn't make the interest go away so new threads will keep popping up. This is a simple fact.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#10 - 2014-05-21 06:43:15 UTC
Anonymous Forumposter wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Anonymous Forumposter wrote:
[ISD, GM's, Dev's] WiS Threads, Can we please keep one?

Sort of... like a pet?


Precisely.

Well you'll need to ask your father, young man. A pet takes responsibility, and last I checked you had trouble making your bed in the morning. Maybe if you catch up on your chores for a while, your father may increase your allowance so you can save a little money to feed a pet... if he lets you get one. Now off you go, you'll miss the bus.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Erica Dusette
Division 13
#11 - 2014-05-21 06:47:48 UTC
ISD Decoy wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Beyond the door lies a room, where a solitary ISD is rhythmically banging his head on his desk while he asks himself if this thread really needed to exist.


We have team issued pillows for that purpose... ;-)

Couple days on the job and already joining in to troll a portion of the userbase you're employed to support?

Nice work mate.

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-05-21 06:51:18 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
ISD Decoy wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Beyond the door lies a room, where a solitary ISD is rhythmically banging his head on his desk while he asks himself if this thread really needed to exist.


We have team issued pillows for that purpose... ;-)

Couple days on the job and already joining in to troll a portion of the userbase you're employed to support?

Nice work mate.


I think it was an expression of patience, not a troll Sad

To ignore the fact that moderating games forums can be a bit tedious may be the easy thing to do, But Knowing how....trying... some forums members can be, I acknowledge the stuff the ISD need to tolerate and deal with on a regular basis.
Eleanor Wish
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-05-21 06:52:37 UTC
If there was only a place in the forums....where people of all walks could get together and discuss new features and ideas....
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#14 - 2014-05-21 06:52:54 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:

Couple days on the job and already joining in to troll a portion of the userbase you're employed to support?

Nice work mate.

^^ getting really bored with forums slowing down a bit today Blink

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-05-21 06:54:14 UTC
Eleanor Wish wrote:
If there was only a place in the forums....where people of all walks could get together and discuss new features and ideas....


We're not here to suggest WiS. We're here to discuss our interest in it in a general sense. To put it in F&I wouldn't be the appropriate place for it.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#16 - 2014-05-21 06:59:26 UTC
WiS is dead, gone, expired, extinct. Get over it. A threadnaught will not bring it back.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-05-21 07:01:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Anonymous Forumposter
Lucas Kell wrote:
WiS is dead, gone, expired, extinct. Get over it. A threadnaught will not bring it back.


Neither will your opposition of it rid you of our interest in it. If you're tired of hearing about it, stop reading about it.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#18 - 2014-05-21 07:02:07 UTC
Anonymous Forumposter wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
ISD Decoy wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Beyond the door lies a room, where a solitary ISD is rhythmically banging his head on his desk while he asks himself if this thread really needed to exist.


We have team issued pillows for that purpose... ;-)

Couple days on the job and already joining in to troll a portion of the userbase you're employed to support?

Nice work mate.


I think it was an expression of patience, not a troll Sad

To ignore the fact that moderating games forums can be a bit tedious may be the easy thing to do, But Knowing how....trying... some forums members can be, I acknowledge the stuff the ISD need to tolerate and deal with on a regular basis.

Didn't seem like it to me. But how about we let Mr ISD come and clarify exactly what he meant for us then?

II understand the demands of such a role first hand, but Im not going to kiss their ass so they do their job properly.
Webvan wrote:
^^ getting really bored with forums slowing down a bit today Blink

They are?

I've been distracted with RL work most of this arvo, but it's excited me to come and find these Avatar threads posted. I'd like to see it remain open and spend some time discussing the topics positively without having to worry about troll posts from asshats who themselves have nothing better to do or anything to post positively about. Blink

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#19 - 2014-05-21 07:23:14 UTC
Anonymous Forumposter wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
WiS is dead, gone, expired, extinct. Get over it. A threadnaught will not bring it back.


Neither will your opposition of it rid you of our interest in it. If you're tired of hearing about it, stop reading about it.
I'm not tired of it, but it's a redundant thread, that's why they get closed. WiS is not coming back, so there's no point in discussing it on here. I'm not opposed to it, I think it could be quite fun, but EVE is a space game, and if they move into focussing on an FPS element they lose sight of their main game. For that reason they put it to bed. If the ISDs keep closing the thread, take the damn hint and stop it. Reposting the same threads over and over again is not helpful.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

Erica Dusette
Division 13
#20 - 2014-05-21 07:42:11 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Anonymous Forumposter wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
WiS is dead, gone, expired, extinct. Get over it. A threadnaught will not bring it back.


Neither will your opposition of it rid you of our interest in it. If you're tired of hearing about it, stop reading about it.
I'm not tired of it, but it's a redundant thread, that's why they get closed. WiS is not coming back, so there's no point in discussing it on here. I'm not opposed to it, I think it could be quite fun, but EVE is a space game, and if they move into focussing on an FPS element they lose sight of their main game. For that reason they put it to bed. If the ISDs keep closing the thread, take the damn hint and stop it. Reposting the same threads over and over again is not helpful.

"WiS" is a term that many of us use to describe avatars/avatar gameplay/the character creator overall. It's really not just about the actual mothballed WiS project itself, and thus it's still alive and well and very relevant. Sorry.

Is we stopped saying "WiS" and used a different term like Avatars or Character creation would that be OK with you?

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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