Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That seems somewhat insecure to me, considering the only thing the login name is used for currently is providing account access.

The report function is a tool that can be used by the individual poster that allows a degree of self-policing. As a member of ISD/CCL I am fully in favor of individuals using the report function when they feel another poster has broken the rules.

However, there are also those who attempt to use the report function for their own gain. There are times that the report breaks more rules than the reported post.

What would be your thoughts on the addition of a forum rule that prohibited the misuse of the reporting function and allowed for sanctions, of some type, against the reporter?

I have deliberately left the question vague, since the definition of the term "misuse" and related issues would have to be defined, along with other issues. I ask simply concerning the concept of such a rule.

silly grrrrrr aaaaaaohhhghod it hurts

And I must admit that I, personally, want to compliment the majority of the posters in this thread who have stayed calm and constructive while discussing an emotional topic.

Lets keep in mind that what is currently restricted is only CAOD. That subforum being what it is provides very little incentive for the uninvolved to actively seek participation. Add the rest of the forum in which actual discussion takes place and you create a much greater incentive and as such increase the probability of individuals being willing to put forth the effort.

I think though, that one fundamental difference in our points of view is that I don't believe, as a customer, it should fall to me to go through hoops in the product I am paying for just to be able to use the public feedback and discussion tools. If I am following the rules of both the game and the forums moderation of either should not be an obstacle to me. CCP is of course free to feel otherwise, but their customers are free to evaluate the value of the service CCP provides differently should they decide to change their current posting requirements.

Lastly we differ in the idea that the value of legitimate posters can be considered equal with the negative value of a similar number of trolls. I think the forum benefits from diverse experiences and anonymity as much as "posting with ones main." This move works to stifle the diversity of play styles able to represent themselves, and while some don't see the value in supporting those players that's all the more reason for them to have their own voice.

Really though, the reason trolls have the capacity they do is that otherwise good posters give it to them. I can't count the number of topics that have been rendered useless when posters lose all sense of productivity to chase something technically incorrect (man is this pot and kettle coming from me) or try to put a troll in their place. Forum participant behavior as a whole, even those who aren't career trolls, is the cause for the degradation of conversation. Combine that with empowered moderation and these issues resolve themselves.

You would be able to do exactly NOTHING. Nada. Nic. Nanimo. Null.
It would be a corporation where CEO would not undock and not give anyone any power. It would be corporation without any member undocking from their base station. What would you do? War dec them? Please, do it. Please wardec my corporation. Every week. At least 5 times. Please, I beg you do it. I will laugh so hard I will fall from my chair.

So . . . nerf free speech IN-GAME or OUT-OF-GAME?
The forums aren't exactly in the game, but if you want to consider them as such, then you should also consider a nerf to NPC corp members ability to communicate in other ways in game. Like, maybe they should be gagged in local and even their own "corp" channel, too, and perhaps disallowed from interacting with peoples' spaceships in space.

Right along with good portion of non-trolling people. Surgical precision, my ass.

And, when we're at it, why arbitrary limit of 10 persons? Why not set the bar at 100+ man corp, or 1000+ man? Or, dare I say, restrict forum only to the members of somethingawful? Do you deny that posting quality would skyrocket on each subsequent change?

Or why not set the bar at something which would require some :effort: from you? Like, for instance, filling monthly quota of mined Veldspar? Since to you the forum equals the game, you should have no problem accepting such conditions (and watching you actually doing it would more than make up for being silenced myself).