Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Are you trying to make a point or thread defecating?

I'm not commenting about CAOD because I'm not following it and after short searching I couldn't find anything resembling description of posting rules.

Even then I think this particular forum being special case where it might be argued there is no place for members of NPC corps. On other forums I see no need for such restrictions for reasons I see no point repeating. Since you expressed similar stance from your side, let's agree to disagree.

[Edit] But I'm still against the original proposal though.

No, it's not.

You missed my point.

If we got rid of trolling (let's say by empowering ISD), what point does this serve? It's a sledgehammer to crack a nut, throwing the baby out the the bathwater - pick your cliche.

There are means to mitigate trolls and people posting crap that do not remove the valuable uses for masked posting.

Yes that post answered the question you asked "what benefit would it bring" if you were trying to ask a different question you need to be more careful of the wording. The benefit it brings is that it increases forum quality.

Why should you be entitled to masked posting with zero effort in the first place? I know I have to work to keep my cover during awoxing, thefts and ganks. Why should you be given free zero effort masked posting?

Why wouldn't this improve forum quality? Also where is your alternative suggestion that will improve forum quality? You've basically just said "its bad I don't like it."

Why should you be entitled to effortless unmasking of such person? Didn't you mention in this thread that you Goons have spy network superior to anything else existing in the game? Use it.

How do I enact a consequence on the scammer who never undocks? What makes forum so different that there character has to be exposed?

You manage the same way like you manage a parrot alt badmouthing you in local: you don't as long as they operate within rules.

This is why I stand by my opinion that what you proposed is not a solution to the problem. The problem should be solved where it belongs: at forum level.

So I take it you cannot answer my questions since you decided to ignore them and pose your own? We can and do but, not everyone can do this and it would be better for the game as a whole if it was available to everyone.

For example:

A newbie decides they want to be mercenaries and starts a mercenary corporation. They recruit like minded people and post their advertisement in C&P. They get a few contracts some good client feedback and continue to play mercenary. One of their competitors begins to think that they are stealing business and makes an npc alt then posts unfounded crap in their thread. The newbies being unaware try to deal with this mysterious poster but, cannot stop the terrible posting because they do not have the methods/resources to handle it. Instead the jobs begin to dry up as clients are now leery of hiring these mercenaries and the newbie mercenary corporation closes its doors. The competitor gains a small increase in business and has no consequences for their actions.

~They did not have access to the same resources people like me have access to and they could not cope with the problem which eventually killed their corporation.

Now with the suggestion:

A newbie decides they want to be mercenaries and starts a mercenary corporation. They recruit like minded people and post their advertisement in C&P. They get a few contracts some good client feedback and continue to play mercenary. One of their competitors begins to think that they are stealing business and posts unfounded crap in their thread. The newbies decide to attack this competitor and through the display the put on during the conflict attract more clients. The conflict ends with the competitor incurring some losses and the newbies having a wonderful tale to tell their new recruits as well as some new clients.

~They had access to the same resources everyone else did and used them to enact consequences for behavior they did not like. This created content and allowed them a chance at success.

Compare the two situations.

In situation one nothing could be done and they died. While in situation two something could be done and they may have died or may have survived but, they created content for everyone.

NPC troll alts do nothing to benefit the game and restricting their posting privileges can only improve the forum quality.

You can do goonspiracy and call me callous all you want it makes no difference in the context of this suggestion. That's the first time you posed that last question and it could be another part of the solution. There's no reason why only one or the other can occur. Both occurring would improve forum quality.

Tyberius Franklin raised the issue that player corporations need to be advantageous to all play styles over NPC corporations and I agree with him.

because scams and trolling don't work the same way, for a start.

although if i have to explain basic differences like that to you, this conversation is going to take longer than i'm willing to give it.

If you read my original OP I use the precedent that enacting the restrictions improved CAOD, which they did, so we can apply the same restrictions to every forum aside from the specific ones I excluded to improve the forum quality.

Buddy you've been trying to dogwhistle goonspiracy in here from the beginning don't get angry that I called you on it.

Again I've said this is part of the solution there's enough room for both suggestions and combined I think they have the potential to do a lot of good for the forums.