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Orion Hellscream Chanlin
Reverberation Inc
#41 - 2014-05-20 16:21:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Orion Hellscream Chanlin
Seraph Essael wrote:
Clicking the show info doesn't show a Blueprint Original. BPO's show on it "Blueprint Original". What you have got is the Hardcopy base rate BPC (Blueprint copy) as I have stated to you (and others too) many times during this thread.


BPO, BPC Hardcopy, whatever, same difference. I see it's saying the BPC can be copied 15 times which maybe is needed (or can it??), but the nuts & bolts is how many runs of making an Oracle which is misleading, at least in my opinion it should be made clearer.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#42 - 2014-05-20 16:23:53 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
To be fair to the OP, there really is no reason for the "Max Run" portion to even be on copies, since it is for all intensive purposes meaningless and just leads to confusion.
It's not on the copy. It's on the type info, and it should be there. Notice how there's no line in his screenshot at the top that says Blueprint Copy or Blueprint Original, and both the ML and PL are zero. It's because it's the type, not the item.

That does make me wonder why the OP didn't check the ML and PL before buying it either. Or were you actually aiming to buy an unresearched 15 run copy?

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#43 - 2014-05-20 16:25:38 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
intensive purposes


Are they really that intensive?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#44 - 2014-05-20 16:25:49 UTC
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:
BPO, BPC Hardcopy, whatever, same difference. I see it's saying the BPC can be copied 15 times which maybe is needed, but the nuts & bolts is how many runs of making an Oracle which is misleading, at least in my opinion it should be made clearer.

It really isn''t. It says how many you can make right in the contract, and it says so again right on the first page of the info sheet.
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#45 - 2014-05-20 16:27:26 UTC
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:

BPO, BPC Hardcopy, whatever, same difference. I see it's saying the BPC can be copied 15 times which maybe is needed, but the nuts & bolts is how many runs of making an Oracle which is misleading, at least in my opinion it should be made clearer.

Completely different actually. Ones a blue print original for a start. The other is the information type etc etc.

The information regarding the amount of runs, its ME and its LE is already on the contract right above the 'Accept' button, nicely in plain sight.

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Markus45
Doomheim
#46 - 2014-05-20 16:28:46 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:

So have I paid over-the-odds for a single run BPC masquerading as a 15 run BPC because...


....because you are foolish?

Yes.

Personal insults are against the EULA. I have petitioned you for your infraction.

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Orion Hellscream Chanlin
Reverberation Inc
#47 - 2014-05-20 16:29:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Orion Hellscream Chanlin
I was in a hurry, just bought a BPC, to make a Battlecruiser. Haven't really gone into the details of how the super-duper,100% efficient, zero-waste method of using these bloody BPCs is supposed to be. How reckless of me!

No harm done, just saying....
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#48 - 2014-05-20 16:30:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Markus45 wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:

So have I paid over-the-odds for a single run BPC masquerading as a 15 run BPC because...


....because you are foolish?

Yes.

Personal insults are against the EULA. I have petitioned you for your infraction.

It wasnt a personal insult. It was a perfectly obvious fact.

Trolling is against the EULA. I have petitioned you for your infraction.

Go away, silly sebiestor

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Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#49 - 2014-05-20 16:32:01 UTC
Markus45 wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:

So have I paid over-the-odds for a single run BPC masquerading as a 15 run BPC because...


....because you are foolish?

Yes.

Personal insults are against the EULA. I have petitioned you for your infraction.

Oh god, I get a feeling he's going to do this on every thread that he deems has a personal attack... And better yet, he's so polite telling them he has done it. Oh aren't you just adorable *pinches cheek*

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#50 - 2014-05-20 16:33:38 UTC
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:
I was in a hurry, just bought a BPC, to make a Battlecruiser. Haven't really gone into the details of how the super-duper,100% efficient, zero-waste method of using these bloody BPCs is supposed to be. How reckless of me!

No harm done, just saying....

I wasn't having a go bud, I was trying to help you understand where you have gone wrong so you don't make the same mistake again...

Always, always, tripple check the contract...

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Elmonky
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2014-05-20 16:34:32 UTC
The OP is correct. This thread is the stupidest thing in Eve general Discussion I have ever read.



One thing to say to you to avoid contract mishaps -

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Orion Hellscream Chanlin
Reverberation Inc
#52 - 2014-05-20 16:35:44 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:
BPO, BPC Hardcopy, whatever, same difference. I see it's saying the BPC can be copied 15 times which maybe is needed, but the nuts & bolts is how many runs of making an Oracle which is misleading, at least in my opinion it should be made clearer.

It really isn''t. It says how many you can make right in the contract, and it says so again right on the first page of the info sheet.

So it's NOT saying I can make 15 BPCs from this particular BPC, which came from a BPC Hardcopy, which came from a BPO, which came from a freakin' lab, ad nauseum.

Yeesh! See what I mean about CCP making the game complicated??!!
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#53 - 2014-05-20 16:37:38 UTC
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:
BPO, BPC Hardcopy, whatever, same difference. I see it's saying the BPC can be copied 15 times which maybe is needed, but the nuts & bolts is how many runs of making an Oracle which is misleading, at least in my opinion it should be made clearer.

It really isn''t. It says how many you can make right in the contract, and it says so again right on the first page of the info sheet.

So it's NOT saying I can make 15 BPCs from this particular BPC, which came from a BPC Hardcopy, which came from a BPO, which came from a freakin' lab, ad nauseum.

Yeesh! See what I mean about CCP making the game complicated??!!
Well that's you making it complicated, not CCP.

Right click contract header - Blueprint Type Info (no line at the top saying copy or original, no researched stats).

Go into the contract - blueprint you are buying.

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#54 - 2014-05-20 16:37:48 UTC
came expecting Dinsdale or James 315 flaming




left disappointed
Elmonky
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2014-05-20 16:40:02 UTC
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:
BPO, BPC Hardcopy, whatever, same difference. I see it's saying the BPC can be copied 15 times which maybe is needed, but the nuts & bolts is how many runs of making an Oracle which is misleading, at least in my opinion it should be made clearer.

It really isn''t. It says how many you can make right in the contract, and it says so again right on the first page of the info sheet.

So it's NOT saying I can make 15 BPCs from this particular BPC, which came from a BPC Hardcopy, which came from a BPO, which came from a freakin' lab, ad nauseum.

Yeesh! See what I mean about CCP making the game complicated??!!




On one respect the seller is creating a very simple scam/business opportunity. They sell you a copy of a blueprint that's either super hard to find or too expensive for normal BPO purchase.

They then stick a fairly expensive price tag on it in the hope someone will not read the full contract and BPC.


Copies of BPs sometimes take a LONG time. Sometimes the copy has been used and resold until only one run remains. Its upto you to learn the difference.


Honestly : make a habit of checking the No of REMAINING runs when buying. it becomes so simple you will laugh at yourself for making this thread.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#56 - 2014-05-20 16:40:45 UTC
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:

So it's NOT saying I can make 15 BPCs from this particular BPC,



That's not the show-info for a BPC, which should be obvious from (if nothing else) the dark blue "BPO" hue of the icon, therefore the rest of this...

Quote:
which came from a BPC Hardcopy, which came from a BPO, which came from a freakin' lab, ad nauseum.



...isn't really applicable.


It's the show-info for the generic BPO of that type, which shows the max number of runs that could be placed on a BPC of that type, were one to copy it.

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Orion Hellscream Chanlin
Reverberation Inc
#57 - 2014-05-20 16:44:52 UTC
So the message is;

"Do things the right way and there will be no problems. Do things not exactly the right way and you will receive mis-information freely from CCP Enterprises Incorporated"

If they have an elevator and everyone stands in the centre you can never get your clothes caught, but if you have the wrong standing position or wearing a long dress, you could get your clothes caught and DIE, because CCP designed this elevator and have made no contingencies for anyone not using the apparatus perfectly.

'Nuff said!
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#58 - 2014-05-20 16:45:50 UTC
Why is it that every time a forum post contains CAPS, sensationalist titles, must reads, and exclamation points, within the first handful of posts after the rage it is revealed that the OP is in fact wrong, at fault and is either unobservant and ignorant or rather perceptive and is simply trolling?

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#59 - 2014-05-20 16:47:15 UTC
Orion Hellscream Chanlin wrote:
So the message is;

"Do things the right way and there will be no problems. Do things not exactly the right way and you will receive mis-information freely from CCP Enterprises Incorporated"

If they have an elevator and everyone stands in the centre you can never get your clothes caught, but if you have the wrong standing position or wearing a long dress, you could get your clothes caught and DIE, because CCP designed this elevator and have made no contingencies for anyone not using the apparatus perfectly.

'Nuff said!

Oh lord... Help us...

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Orion Hellscream Chanlin
Reverberation Inc
#60 - 2014-05-20 16:48:02 UTC
Kijo Rikki wrote:
Why is it that every time a forum post contains CAPS, sensationalist titles, must reads, and exclamation points, within the first handful of posts after the rage it is revealed that the OP is in fact wrong, at fault and is either unobservant and ignorant or rather perceptive and is simply trolling?


Yeah, and everytime you read it and write this load of rubbish!