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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#81 - 2014-05-20 15:27:21 UTC
Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:
There's not going to be enough popcorn to last out this thread.

We need chips in here STAT

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Destruction Derpy
Doomheim
#82 - 2014-05-20 15:28:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Destruction Derpy
I would like to end this thread by telling a short summary of a story
CCP Hellmar himself told at the 10 year anniversary fanfest:

Some guy said he'll pay lots of interest if people gave him money.
People started to give him money.
More people kept giving him money, because he kept paying interest.
More and more people kept giving him money.
He took it all and ran.

According to CCP Hellmar, 500 players quitted the game,
because CCP refused to step in as it was their own decision to put trust into this.

5000 players joined the game, because nowhere else could this happen.
Realism attracts actual players who create content,
while artificial safety and protection attracts and creates haters,
spoiled people and self righteousness.


Facts beat your disconnected opinions.


(stupid 5min posting delay. Corrected mobile related spelling mistakes.)

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Dave Stark
#83 - 2014-05-20 15:30:04 UTC
Destruction Derpy wrote:
I would like to end thia thread by twlling a short summary of a story
CCP Hellmat himself told at the 10 year anniversary fanfest.

Some guy said he'll pay lots of interest if people gave him money.
People started to give him money.
More people kept giving him money, because he kept paying interest.
More and more people kept giving him money.
He took it all and ran.

According to CCP Hellmar, 500 players quitted the game,
because CCP refused to step in as it was their own decision to put trust into this.

5000 players joined the game, because nowhere else could this happen.
Realism attracts players.


Facts beat your disconnected opinions.


glad i'm not the only one who remembers that story.
Priestess Lin
Darkfall Corp
#84 - 2014-05-20 15:30:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Priestess Lin
Dave Stark wrote:
Priestess Lin wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Priestess Lin wrote:
CCP must figure it will cost them more money than they are losing by choosing not to police scamming. Maybe they are right, but it certainly makes their game ugly.

source that scamming costs ccp money. otherwise we'll have to declare that you're full of ****.

also, being able to scam in eve is something other games don't have and that uniqueness makes eve very attractive.


It likely costs them money because people hear about that crap like that and don't even want to give EVE a chance besides being an overall disgusting thing to see in chat constantly. What kind of game company is so lazy that they don't even police scamming in their game?

Is scamming and sociopathic behavior supposed to be part of the appeal? Lol

See my OP about how this game attracts degenerates.


fun fact: when the first corp theft happened after a short while player numbers were up not down despite people stamping feet and threatening to quit. underhand activities in eve are good for the game's overall health, the game markets itself on that stuff.

you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.


reach harder. You lack common sense.

When discussing weaknesses of heavy drones vs fast frigates: baltec1- " A thanatos with a flight of geckos killed a bomber gang while AFK. So yea, they track frigates just fine." https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4678049#post4678049
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#85 - 2014-05-20 15:30:31 UTC
Destruction Derpy wrote:
I would like to end thia thread by twlling a short summary of a story
CCP Hellmat himself told at the 10 year anniversary fanfest.

Some guy said he'll pay lots of interest if people gave him money.
People started to give him money.
More people kept giving him money, because he kept paying interest.
More and more people kept giving him money.
He took it all and ran.

According to CCP Hellmar, 500 players quitted the game,
because CCP refused to step in as it was their own decision to put trust into this.

5000 players joined the game, because nowhere else could this happen.
Realism attracts players.


Facts beat your disconnected opinions.

Have a muffin, Derpy

You are awesome

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Dave Stark
#86 - 2014-05-20 15:32:29 UTC
Priestess Lin wrote:
reach harder. You lack common sense.

reach harder? i reached for a quote from the big cheese of CCP.

try again, darlin'.
Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2014-05-20 15:32:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Hatfield
Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:
There's not going to be enough popcorn to last out this thread.
I have some, would you like to share?

OP, this thread is bad, and you're a troll.

I don't burn bridges, I merely steal a bolt a day.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#88 - 2014-05-20 15:34:21 UTC
Destruction Derpy wrote:
I would like to end thia thread by twlling a short summary of a story
CCP Hellmat himself told at the 10 year anniversary fanfest.

Some guy said he'll pay lots of interest if people gave him money.
People started to give him money.
More people kept giving him money, because he kept paying interest.
More and more people kept giving him money.
He took it all and ran.

According to CCP Hellmar, 500 players people to weak willed to have been playing the game int the 1st place quitted the game,
because CCP refused to step in as it was their own decision to put trust into this.

5000 players REAL EVE players joined the game, because nowhere else could this happen.
Realism attracts players.


Facts beat your disconnected opinions.


Fixed your post for you.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#89 - 2014-05-20 15:35:10 UTC
Priestess Lin wrote:
Is there any way I can put this in my sig so its shame can be immortalized?
Why would you want to immortalise the fact that you don't know what words mean?

Quote:
reach harder.
No need to reach anywhere when the facts are already at hand. I'd even venture to guess that the high-profile scams of yore are to this day the largest contributors of new players.
Priestess Lin
Darkfall Corp
#90 - 2014-05-20 15:35:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Priestess Lin
Destruction Derpy wrote:
I would like to end thia thread by twlling a short summary of a story
CCP Hellmat himself told at the 10 year anniversary fanfest.

Some guy said he'll pay lots of interest if people gave him money.
People started to give him money.
More people kept giving him money, because he kept paying interest.
More and more people kept giving him money.
He took it all and ran.

According to CCP Hellmar, 500 players quitted the game,
because CCP refused to step in as it was their own decision to put trust into this.

5000 players joined the game, because nowhere else could this happen.
Realism attracts players.


Facts beat your disconnected opinions.


are you sure it wasn't over 9000?

sounds really believable. Roll

and even it its true, it just reinforces my point about CCP being greedy and attracting even the scum bags.

But where is "the scammer" profession on the main website? wouldn't they want to promote this 0 SP required "feature", as you would call it? Lol

Get real.

When discussing weaknesses of heavy drones vs fast frigates: baltec1- " A thanatos with a flight of geckos killed a bomber gang while AFK. So yea, they track frigates just fine." https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4678049#post4678049
Dave Stark
#91 - 2014-05-20 15:36:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Dave Stark
Priestess Lin wrote:
Destruction Derpy wrote:
I would like to end thia thread by twlling a short summary of a story
CCP Hellmat himself told at the 10 year anniversary fanfest.

Some guy said he'll pay lots of interest if people gave him money.
People started to give him money.
More people kept giving him money, because he kept paying interest.
More and more people kept giving him money.
He took it all and ran.

According to CCP Hellmar, 500 players quitted the game,
because CCP refused to step in as it was their own decision to put trust into this.

5000 players joined the game, because nowhere else could this happen.
Realism attracts players.


Facts beat your disconnected opinions.


are you sure it wasn't over 9000?

sounds really believable. Roll

and even it its true, it just reinforces my point about CCP being greedy and attracting even the scum bags.

if you don't believe it, go and check out the 10 year anniversary fanfest videos, where he told the story.

if your delicate sensibilities are hurt because the devs aren't interested in wrapping you in cotton wool, i suggest you go and find a game that'll treat you in the insulting and child like manner that you wish to be treated in.
Priestess Lin
Darkfall Corp
#92 - 2014-05-20 15:37:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Priestess Lin
Dave Stark wrote:
Priestess Lin wrote:
Destruction Derpy wrote:
I would like to end thia thread by twlling a short summary of a story
CCP Hellmat himself told at the 10 year anniversary fanfest.

Some guy said he'll pay lots of interest if people gave him money.
People started to give him money.
More people kept giving him money, because he kept paying interest.
More and more people kept giving him money.
He took it all and ran.

According to CCP Hellmar, 500 players quitted the game,
because CCP refused to step in as it was their own decision to put trust into this.

5000 players joined the game, because nowhere else could this happen.
Realism attracts players.


Facts beat your disconnected opinions.


are you sure it wasn't over 9000?

sounds really believable. Roll

and even it its true, it just reinforces my point about CCP being greedy and attracting even the scum bags.

if you don't believe it, go and check out the 10 year anniversary fanfest videos, where he told the story.


true story bro. Roll

where is "the scammer" listed on their professions listings?

When discussing weaknesses of heavy drones vs fast frigates: baltec1- " A thanatos with a flight of geckos killed a bomber gang while AFK. So yea, they track frigates just fine." https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4678049#post4678049
Xavier Higdon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#93 - 2014-05-20 15:38:04 UTC
Priestess Lin wrote:
Kijo Rikki wrote:


From the outside looking in, it seems like we're all a bunch of blowhards but if you hop on TS and talk to people, they're no different from players in any other game.


actions speak louder than words and people can be very different than they appear on voice chat.

quite a few serial killers and rapists are known for being pleasant to talk to.


You're certainly correct that actions may speak louder than words, and that people can be extremely different than their voice may make them seem. Actions in a video game, however, seem a strange thing to be considering. For example, I'm a huge fan of The Elder Scrolls series, started another play through of Skyrim with all the DLC installed a few weeks ago in fact, and in that game I have done some terrible things. I have slaughtered droves of people, though most of them have not been innocent. I even went so far as to intervene in a Civil War, leading to the deaths of potentially thousands of people just fighting for their beliefs. I murdered them just because I liked the other side more. I've also hunted down and killed at least ten dragons. Now these aren't the mindless beasts that you may be thinking of, oh no. These dragons are sentient, potentially more intelligent than any of us, and are majestic beings. All of this, however, is meaningless to me as I stalk them and then slaughter them for their power.

Would you like to tell me what this makes me in real life?

As for your serial killer reference, well I've never known a serial killer myself. As such, I cannot tell you if any of them have been pleasant to talk to. In this regard, I'm happy to defer to you if you have had experience with serial killers.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#94 - 2014-05-20 15:38:30 UTC
Priestess Lin wrote:
and even it its true, it just reinforces my point about CCP being greedy and attracting even the scum bags.
No, it just reinforces the point that, unlike you, most people can separate fantasy from reality.
Dave Stark
#95 - 2014-05-20 15:38:45 UTC
Priestess Lin wrote:
true story bro. Roll

more so than anything you've come up with, so far.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#96 - 2014-05-20 15:39:18 UTC
Priestess Lin wrote:

are you sure it wasn't over 9000?
sounds really believable. Roll
and even it its true, it just reinforces my point about CCP being greedy and attracting even the scum bags.
But where is "the scammer" profession on the main website? wouldn't they want to promote this 0 SP required "feature", as you would call it? Lol
Get real.


Same place as the dedicated WH dweller

The Moon Miner

The Incursion Runner

The Wabbit Hunter

The AWOXer

The Lottery Holders

The Prostitutes

The CODE

The Spai

The Counter Spai

The Diplo

and uncounted other professions that exist without your permission

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#97 - 2014-05-20 15:42:05 UTC
Priestess Lin wrote:

reach harder. You lack common sense.



So lets see, someone else lacks common sense.

However, you're the one complaining on a video game forum about a game situation that is as old as the game itself, allowed by the makers of the game and the things for which the game is famous (infamous) for.

You say that scamming will keep people from trying the game thus hurting CCP because then CCP won't get any money from them.. To bad you don't realize that they don't need it, because (as evidenced by your posting privilages), YOU are giving CCP all the money they need while playing a game with game mechanics that you hate.

That's right, you are paying the company that allowed you to get scammed. in a way, you paid for the privilege of being scammed lol.

Why do you think scamming will stop people from coming to EVE when it didn't even stop you?
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#98 - 2014-05-20 15:43:51 UTC
Priestess Lin wrote:
I suggest CCP give a kick to the face of the sociopaths with a patch that removes their ability to loot other players required mission items.

Finally cracking down on scamming would also be nice. It really adds nothing to your game but contempt for it. Who really cares about the degenerates that make your game ugly? Or will it cost you too much money to police it?


If sociopaths such as yourself (who wish to see people kicked in the face WTF dude?) are forbidden from mission looting I can live with that, as long as the rest of us normal people are left to have fun playing a game, including stealing your loot.

As for the degenerates that get scammed, we need them. Please don't ban them CCP!
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#99 - 2014-05-20 15:44:57 UTC
Priestess Lin wrote:
Destruction Derpy wrote:
I would like to end thia thread by twlling a short summary of a story
CCP Hellmat himself told at the 10 year anniversary fanfest.

Some guy said he'll pay lots of interest if people gave him money.
People started to give him money.
More people kept giving him money, because he kept paying interest.
More and more people kept giving him money.
He took it all and ran.

According to CCP Hellmar, 500 players quitted the game,
because CCP refused to step in as it was their own decision to put trust into this.

5000 players joined the game, because nowhere else could this happen.
Realism attracts players.


Facts beat your disconnected opinions.


are you sure it wasn't over 9000?

sounds really believable. Roll

and even it its true, it just reinforces my point about CCP being greedy and attracting even the scum bags.
Just quit already, do yourself, us and CCP a favour. CCP know their game and their market niche, you don't see to fall into the latter.

The real greed is from the likes of Blizzard and EA, where massive profits at the expense of quality are more important than a quality product making a reasonable profit.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Priestess Lin
Darkfall Corp
#100 - 2014-05-20 15:48:51 UTC
Renegade Heart wrote:

As for the degenerates that get scammed, we need them.


yea, because you have to be a degenerate to not know everything about EVE, such as what the margin trading skill does. Roll

Could the pro-scamming crowd be any less ridiculous?

When discussing weaknesses of heavy drones vs fast frigates: baltec1- " A thanatos with a flight of geckos killed a bomber gang while AFK. So yea, they track frigates just fine." https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4678049#post4678049