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Pandemic Horde Inc.

Pandemic Horde

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#41 - 2014-05-12 17:42:12 UTC

CRAZYCAJUN wrote:

I've literally spent years getting my standing where it is now, and have been using them to make a pretty good living in eve over the past few months.

literally years??? sounds like you did it wrong.

I rolled a new char and spent around 500m plus maybe 6 hours on and off to gain anchoring standings when I needed them Straight

the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones - Commander Ted

Frostys Virpio

State War Academy

Caldari State

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#42 - 2014-05-12 18:02:49 UTC

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

CRAZYCAJUN wrote:

At the moment they're just going to call "free game" on pos's and any brand new capsuleer can just jump right in

That's the point of it, yeah. That way that particular content, which is soon to have greater importance, isn't gated behind one of the worst mechanics in the entire game.

If the mission system wasn't as horrendous as it is, it could be fixed instead of bypassed but it's not so CCP made the right choice.

Daichi Yamato

Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass

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#43 - 2014-05-12 18:03:19 UTC

GreenSeed wrote:

a flat fee to set up a POS would be nice, a billion sounds reasonable and creates a degree of commitment to the endeavor, instead of a corp dropping a pos with a few utility structures and then packing the whole thing up before a wardec goes into effect.

The commitment is buying or building the thing and then fuelling it and protecting it from attack. At the moment standings only needed grinding once, then u can do all the unpacking and repacking u seem to hate anyways. It was a bad mechanic and thats why it got removed. trying to somehow tie it into standings again would just make it a bad mechanic again.

Rhadnan Yvormes wrote:

Yeah, he has already managed to make some isk by leveraging the facilities afforded him by his hard work, but that doesn't make it acceptable to obliterate the value of that work. And what about those of us who have invested the time and effort to obtain this privilege but have just recently reached that point, and have yet to benefit from the work we put in? What about the corps that have invested the effort to be able to deploy a POS in hisec because they don't have the resources or combat capability to defend one in LS/NS?

Speculation can go either way. thats nothing new. those putting in the effort to make money should understand the mechanic can change at anytime in anyway. if they didnt understand that, that is their own foolishness, but now they know right?

Rhadnan Yvormes wrote:

It's one thing for a ship one spent a lot of time training for to be made more or less powerful. It's another thing entirely for everything one spent years building to be put at tremendous risk, especially when the decisions regarding the risk:reward of those efforts were made on the basis of such a long-standing game mechanic.

Some ppl trained specifically for heavy missile tengus and then cried when HML's got nerfed. They speculated like the players u describe, they lost like the players u describe.

ultimately standings are still useful. Locator agents and access to missions. Sell ur services in those areas if u must.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs

Mandingo's Minions 5
CRAZYCAJUN Mandingo's Minions Likes received: 5	#44 - 2014-05-17 02:03:22 UTC still looking for someone from ccp to weigh in on this...

Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2,194
Corraidhin Farsaidh Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation Likes received: 2,194	#45 - 2014-05-17 02:58:29 UTC A player who ground standings was compensated in isk and lp for the missions. They then got the benefits of higher standings from that point on. They will continue to benefit from lower tax etc even after the change. No other compensation is required in my opinion (from someone who ground standings for refining)

Rapscallion Jones

Omnibus Solutions

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#46 - 2014-05-17 03:02:57 UTC

Darin Vanar wrote:

They are only removing the standings anyway, because they expect POS usage to go down, and they don't want to completely destroy the ice market. Removal of standings, plus the increased consumption of Isotope fuel, is just their insurance against the removal of slots.

I still say this is their plan, nerf POSes into non-existance then they don't have to fix them, they just have to Shift-Delete the bad code. Evil

Commando Guri Guristas Pirates 885
Caleb Seremshur Commando Guri Guristas Pirates Likes received: 885	#47 - 2014-05-17 03:19:04 UTC Abrazzar wrote: They should aim for a "Loyalty Expansion" where all LP stores get overhauled and effects for npc corporation and faction standings (both positive and negative) are included. Enemy of the state? Can't dock here. Repairs? Only for people we like. Etc. This should have been the design from the start