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Opinion: how much does EVE lore really matter to you?

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Cpt Tirel
Institute For Continuous Glory
#21 - 2014-05-19 23:05:21 UTC
Eve lore is awesome. I read The Burning Life and Empyrean Age and thought both of them were great. In my opinion it is more realistic lore than for example Star Wars. And more imaginative when going into detail than Stargate.

In-game lore stuff is not very interesting, everyone is too busy flying their ships for that. If the door ever opens perhaps things will change.
Woeste Veegmachine
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-05-19 23:07:24 UTC
I like lore and like reading random bits of lore while, for example, sitting in the train for an hour or doing 25+ jumps.

It doesn't affect my in-game choices now, but it did -a little- when I started out, focusing on training drones and such to fit the whole 'Being Gallente' thing. Turns out months later this was a good thing. Turned my Caldari standings into trash though, with those silly security missions I used to think were good isk.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#23 - 2014-05-19 23:11:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Erica Dusette
Slick Slomopavitz wrote:
Great responses in here! For everyone who says lore has no bearing on their gameplay, just wondering what made you choose your race / character? Did you just skip over the details and roll out a character to get into the game without really delving into the info? Character customization is one thing (pretty sure we all love to tweak our avatars from time to time) but how conscious of your race choice were you when you crafted your characters?

Almost zero. I didn't spend time reading the lore of each race beyond what's provided in the character creator (or what was, since it was 4 years ago using the old creator). I don't do much research before I jump into a game and prefer to learn "on the fly". If I'd done some homework then I'd probably have found Gallente lore more attractive to me than Caldari.

Was so long ago I really don't remember why I chose the race I did. It was probably simple asthetics - I probably found the example images of Caldari characters more attractive than the other races, so chose an Achuran.

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Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#24 - 2014-05-19 23:12:43 UTC
The game would be nothing without the lore imo.
Bardulo Monikson
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-05-19 23:22:17 UTC
It semi impacted my decision, mostly because I like the idea of being the race that the amarr probably hate the most. In game I actually stick to ships within my race because of lore.

I'll actually fly to systems solely because of some piece of lore.

Just me though.
Slick Slomopavitz
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-05-19 23:26:18 UTC
My main character is Minmatar, chosen as a result of the "personality test" on the EVE website. I was very new to the game and based on my results, I checked out the Minmatar ships and really loved what I saw so I went with them for my very first character. I did a very cursory look into the Minmatar history and background, not too in depth but enough to get a handle on the Amarr conflict, and when I played I always had that "Minmatar represent" thing in the back of my mind, but I didn't let it guide my gameplay very much. When I rolled my current alt (the fine specimen you see to the left there) I wanted to try a different race and because of my affinity for the Minmatar struggle, I chose the Gallente based more on their sympathy toward the Minmatar than anything else. So I guess in a way the lore did sort of get under my skin, even though there's still a lot I don't know about the EVE universe...

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MicroWarpdrive II
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2014-05-19 23:29:14 UTC
I enjoy the lore when there's time for it, but it's not why I'm subbed.
Zol Interbottom
Blimp Requisition Services
#28 - 2014-05-19 23:32:51 UTC
Most of the lore is really depressing, i read A Beautiful Face and it was messed up, like Face/Off but good and not Cage.

"If you're quitting for the 3rd time you clearly ain't quitting" - Chribba

Vayn Dravix
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2014-05-19 23:35:12 UTC
Only reason i started playing
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#30 - 2014-05-19 23:35:19 UTC
The lore is pretty interesting, and makes for a good read now and then.

But as far as the game itself goes, the game is really not about the lore.

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One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Slick Slomopavitz
Doomheim
#31 - 2014-05-19 23:45:46 UTC
Vayn Dravix wrote:
Only reason i started playing


I can actually echo that sentiment. I've been a sci-fi fan and writer of creative fiction for most of my life and when I came across EVE and gazed upon its aesthetic (website, youtube videos) I had to know more, which I did, and which inspired me to sub so I could get the full effect. I wasn't really that interested in the PVP aspect of the game, I just wanted to get inside and see more of the awesomeness. EVE's game play is another thing entirely, but the sheer magnitude of universe building that went into the design of this game is stunning and really goes a long way to draw one in, should one be so inclined as to dig in and absorb the entirety of EVEdom.

Smile

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#32 - 2014-05-19 23:48:34 UTC
Slick Slomopavitz wrote:
Vayn Dravix wrote:
Only reason i started playing


I can actually echo that sentiment. I've been a sci-fi fan and writer of creative fiction for most of my life and when I came across EVE and gazed upon its aesthetic (website, youtube videos) I had to know more, which I did, and which inspired me to sub so I could get the full effect. I wasn't really that interested in the PVP aspect of the game, I just wanted to get inside and see more of the awesomeness. EVE's game play is another thing entirely, but the sheer magnitude of universe building that went into the design of this game is stunning and really goes a long way to draw one in, should one be so inclined as to dig in and absorb the entirety of EVEdom.

Smile

Well, sounds like we might see you in The Summit sometime. Smile

If we haven't seen your main there already. Blink

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Slick Slomopavitz
Doomheim
#33 - 2014-05-19 23:51:19 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:

Well, sounds like we might see you in The Summit sometime. Smile

If we haven't seen your main there already. Blink



Hey, stranger things have happened...

Big smile

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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#34 - 2014-05-19 23:58:04 UTC
Slick Slomopavitz wrote:
Whether it comes to the race/faction you choose to the ships you fly to the decisions you make in game, how much actually has to do with the universe that CCP has created for this game and how much has to do with just getting into space and making things blow up real good?


Well the "lore" doesn't affect what i choose to fly and how i choose to play, that being said some of the lore is actually really really nice, i used to enjoy reading through the chronicles and i've read a couple of the EVE novels aswell, sure it doesn't affect how i play but its nice to be able to see a little more depth to the universe
Doreen Kaundur
#35 - 2014-05-20 00:08:42 UTC
When CCP decided to make us all look like Blade Runner, lore went out the window.

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Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#36 - 2014-05-20 00:11:49 UTC
Me gusta. I like the chronicles and the trailers and every now and then I'll do some RP. I came up with a semi-coherent backstory of my own that explains my corp/alliance memberships, friendships with friends, and how all of my alts tie in together - I personally find that treating your journey as a choose your own adventure type of rpg and writing in your friends as characters works really well at making the game less boring.

It's especially fun when doing certain things like cloaky hunting - I like to mentally image the ship and crew going into a full silent mode when I cloak up - some Red October type stuff. Imagining I'm deep in enemy territory for a reason other than 'kill stuff for lols'. When I run missions I go all in with the mission descriptions, etc. and try to not treat it as just shooting red crosses for isk. Same thing when I go null-sec ratting - I'm not making money, I'm helping keep our space safe of the Guristas and Serpentis threats :)
Erufen Rito
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2014-05-20 00:22:56 UTC
Lore is fine, but there is such a little relevance of it in game, that I could whipe all of it out of my memory and enjoy the game just as much.

This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165

Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#38 - 2014-05-20 00:29:34 UTC
It matters quite a lot for me when I make my characters, but not much at all when in game. My grasp of EVE lore is very basic however, and goes something like this:

Amarr = Racist religious fanatics with sticks up their butts.
Caldari = Corporate tools with sticks up their butts.
Gallente = Artsy fartsy hedonists and friends of the Minmatar.
Minmatar = Every man for himself or his tribe, and now the most free people of New Eden, despite their past.

I haven't read the books, and I don't bother to read the chronicles or whatever. I formed my opinion of the empires from in-game and promotional materials and that opinion hasn't changed since 2004.

Anyway, the lore matters enough to me that I would never make an Amarr or Caldari character. Or at least not a main character. But I'll fly Amarr and Caldari ships, and fly in fleets with pilots from those races. I'm even based out of Amarr space these days, and spend most of my time trolling Caldari space. I don't role play or participate in role play events. But I do have some Minmatar pride, and this character is my most pirate-minded character, and was made with that in mind. My others are less aggressive, but still all Minmatar. This also seems to be my character for ship toasting on the forums.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#39 - 2014-05-20 00:34:10 UTC
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
I don't role play or participate in role play events.

Today is your turn? Cry

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Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#40 - 2014-05-20 00:37:18 UTC
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
It matters quite a lot for me when I make my characters, but not much at all when in game. My grasp of EVE lore is very basic however, and goes something like this:

Amarr = Racist religious fanatics with sticks up their butts.
Caldari = Corporate tools with sticks up their butts.
Gallente = Artsy fartsy hedonists and friends of the Minmatar.
Minmatar = Every man for himself or his tribe, and now the most free people of New Eden, despite their past.

I haven't read the books, and I don't bother to read the chronicles or whatever. I formed my opinion of the empires from in-game and promotional materials and that opinion hasn't changed since 2004.

Anyway, the lore matters enough to me that I would never make an Amarr or Caldari character. Or at least not a main character. But I'll fly Amarr and Caldari ships, and fly in fleets with pilots from those races. I'm even based out of Amarr space these days, and spend most of my time trolling Caldari space. I don't role play or participate in role play events. But I do have some Minmatar pride, and this character is my most pirate-minded character, and was made with that in mind. My others are less aggressive, but still all Minmatar. This also seems to be my character for ship toasting on the forums.

All of my mains are Minmatar with the exception of one, my latest trade/hauler alt which I made Caldari to be a ruthless capitalist ;)