EVE General Discussion

Nine references to yourself in one attempted barb

My god, this man has no shame

We agree.

Although to be honest, I know so little about botting that I have no idea if they even have to be in the same city as their botting thingy.

I confess that I would not know a bot in the game if one came up and smacked me on the nose.

99% sure the criteria is simply "are they in a mining ship?" if yes, they're a bot.

Marsha Mallow, you've done a fabulous job of quoting me, but allow me a rebuttal.

In reply to your first quote(which is quoted from page 7):

First, let me point out that it was not my original post. If you're going to argue something, at least try to not include falsehoods. We'll ignore that fact, however, and just act like you aren't completely wrong. What I am arguing here is that using any one arbitrary bit of information provided by CCP's FanFest 2014 presentation titled "From Evidence to Bans" to argue that they should be focusing more attention on any one area of EvE Online is ridiculous. The reason it is ridiculous is that the presentation included a lot of information that is irrelevant to detecting and punishing bots. One of the pieces of information that they provided is that 21% of all bots banned in the past 16 months have been a part of a single alliance. I was not arguing that they should actually be focusing on that single alliance guilty of nearly 1/4th of all botting, I was arguing that if CCP is going to focus on only one area of EvE, why not have them focus their attention on that one alliance?

In reply to your second quote(which is quoted from page 14):

This quote is a reply to a post where Andski took what I said and attempted to replace it with a quote that was completely unrelated to what I had been saying. Now, since that singular sentence of "u mad bro" was not the entirety of my post, it is a bit hard to argue that it somehow constitutes such and therefore shows non-constructive posting. What I was asking of him was that he stop inserting his own twisted version of my statements into the thread. I reprimanded him for having been childish and then, since he avidly promotes his Twitter account, attempted to reduce the number of characters in my reply to him down to less than 140. I think I did a fairly decent job.

In reply to your third quote(which quoted from page 9):

Again, this quote is a reply to the argument that CCP should be using arbitrary information to detect and punish bots. It would be a rumour had I argued that CCP's pie chart did, in fact, show that a single coalition is responsible for much of the botting in EvE Online, but I did not argue that. What I argued is that it is potentially true that a single coalition is responsible for much of the botting that occurs in EvE Online. Just as La Nariz has attempted to deduce that most botting occurs in high sec based off the fact that CCP catches more bots in high sec than elsewhere, I was merely deducing that since many alliances are a part of a coalition it is possible that a single coalition could be responsible for nearly all of the botting in EvE Online. The difference between the two is quite simple: while my deduction is no more based in fact than his is, I did not attempt to claim that mine was actually a fact.

In reply to your fourth quote(which is quoted from page 18):

It would be a rumour had I accused him of using a bot or bots, which I did not do. He was asking me a rather specific question about the manner in which bots are designed for and used within EvE Online, which I have no experience with. I was merely willing to defer to him if he had experience with designing and/or using bots with EvE Online.

In reply to your fifth quote(which is quoted from page 9):

As Prince Kobol corrected me in the very next post, and in the post after that I admitted to having been wrong, I don't see how this is relevant. That aspect of the argument, upon Prince Kobol having cleared it up, was not brought up by myself again. The second underlined part of the quote is merely my opinion, though I admit that since I have never used a bot nor known anyone that has I am not qualified to make an educated guess as to their intelligence. I will gladly defer to the knowledge of anyone with more experience in using bots and/or being closely associated with those that do on this matter.

In reply to your sixth, and thankfully final, quote(which is also quoted from page 9):

The very first sentence in this quote is my reply to Prince Kobol's having corrected my misconception that one could not subscribe to EvE Online with PLEX alone. You'll notice that I admitted to having been wrong. The underlined portion of the quote is, again, my opinion. I admit, once again, that I do not have any experience with bots or people that use bots so I am not qualified to make an educated guess regarding any conspiracies involving huge organizations that might be using long chains of untraceable accounts in order to mask their activities. In this case I'm also willing to defer to someone with more knowledge based upon their experience in using bots, being closely associated with those that use bots and/or being a part of a huge conspiracy to use untraceable accounts in order to mask their botting activities.

Is there anything else you need me to clarify for you?

Any chance of you putting in a tl;dr in future posts if you aren't going to take the hint and quit being so verbose about nothing?

There was no easy way to reply to Marsha Mallows' posts in a limited fashion. If reading is something you detest, I suggest you not inject yourself into complex arguments. Otherwise, HTFU.

I think STFU would have made more sense, but ah well. I'm not saying I'm being pained by your responses, but you need to learn to consider your audience. It's clear the audience here is not reacting well to your walls upon walls of, well let's call it what it is, shite. I'm simply advising you that if you want people to actually read and take on board what you are saying, a summary might be a good idea.

My eyeball hardener consists of using the hide post function, it has a shitposting resistance of around 86%

Things are just going down hill for you fast, man. HTFU does not stand for hardeners, and I'm not sure if you're aware of this but it is actually impossible to "fit" a module from the game EvE Online onto a human being. Also, it is self-aggrandizing, not "self-agrandising."

*squints really hard in horrified amazement*

Are you simple or something?