Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The bolded text is where I believe you are fundamentally wrong. Eve is risk v. reward. Currently other than supercap hunting and possibly wanting a bubble that you can dictate there is little to no advantage to having a hictor of a dictor. I know that statement is full of holes and I could argue points and counter points all day, but that is for a different thread. I can appreciate that lots of things die in lowsec, experienced a bit of that in Daras not but a few days ago, but YOU DON'T OWN LOWSEC. Nullsec, specifically Deklein is where I hang my hat, and to be all but inept killing 1 or 2 (possibly 3 if lucky) ceptors out of a gang of 15+ when my gang is larger and the cost point much higher is unacceptable. There needs to be a way to counter interdicition nullifications and I do believe tweaking the hictor is the answer.

edit: and since when is a max res boosted keres a $500.00 power drill?

Please go read the OP.

EVE is also a place where this is no perfect safety. It's a good thing that things can slip through, be it BRs or Intys. I would agree that T3s are annoying because they don't really seem to make sacrifices all the much for their advantage. And that much force shouldn't be as easily projectable without a counter.

The ability for intys to fly unobstructed is even more critical in our era of increasingly solidified power. Guerilla tactics are going to be a mainstay for those individuals who want to create content with large coalitions without being able to actually pose a real threat. Perfectly guarded space means less content for those kinds of tactics.

Yes there are tears won't deny but it's far more than tri, this is explicitly about how there is nothing to counter interdiction nullification except dumb luck. Goons abuse this mechanic as much as anyone else. Nullsec blocks utilize entire fleets comps consisting of nullified t3's, how is this ok? I fly interceptors and see that this is broken, I fly t3's for both personal gain and for the swarm, and still I see this is a mechanic with a most ineffective counter.

Hictors using a specialized script or t2 electronics rig with a 15km bubble would be a solid counter without being over powered.

Fully agree with this idea. Actually also thought about this yesterday...
A specialized ship such as HIC should be able to fit a more specialized module/script that would counter interdiction nullified ships. At the cost of some other abilities.
A good pilot would still be able to mwd out of such a bubble and warp away (especially if bubble has reduced size), so there are actually some risk to inties aswell - not just the current reward methodology that they enjoy.

As you stated, there is currently NO counter for inty spam - we've even tried running fleets of scanres inties to catch enemy inty fleets, but the only thing you can hope for is the luck factor. (People seem to also forget EVE still has latency affecting targeting speed...)
So an expensive ship (both in cost and skill) should be able to counter this. I also think a HIC should be the only ship/deployable with this ability.

I do believe that the even more expensive T3 strat cruisers should still have some way to partially mitigate this effect. The investment you make in a t3 ship should give you some benefits atleast (strat cruiser's focus on choice). Just not sure how this could be done without going round in circles with this idea...

But risk vs reward seems apt with this general idea.

No

That's giving gate campers freebie kills.

Not here to gift wrap your targets for you...

T2 things are relatively cheap and easy to employ once a pilot is trained and has a decent income. Interdiction nullification would be much less viable if a T2 bubble was all it took to stop them.

Howabout a faction anchorable bubble that can stop them, but it's not only expensive but also has a longer anchor time?
And then a deadspace variant which stops them without the extra anchor time but is a pretty significant resource sink?
That way interdiction nullification would still be pretty successful but it would spice up the danger a bit. It would also give a way to keep ships from running through an area of space if that's really important to you.

Thank you for bolstering my point. Your ineptitude is what keeps you blind to the fact that you're doing it wrong.

Did any of you ever stop to consider what you could have done to the Inty gang had you been chasing them with 15 Inties and a couple more of those Keres, instead of camping a bubble in a gang of mostly fat, slow shiny **** that has no hope of ever keeping up?

Apparently not.

Then the camps are bad.

People just don't get out of bubbles with a decent camp. Those that do escape, it's not because they did anything special, it's because the camp screwed up.

So your answer for interceptors is interceptors, jeez NEVER thought of that. I know it says wildly inappropriate next to my name but a little more credit please. Chasing interceptors with interceptors usually yields results similar to the benny hill show. Also please keep to the topic at hand and less on your perception of "goon ineptitude". Even interceptors have a hard time turning and burning fast enough to get ahead of a target long enough for a scram. Applying interdiction nullification to interceptors was to increase their chance at survival as scout and fleet tackle, not for uncatchable ghost fleets that can penetrate any defense while taking minimal or no loss.



It's not necessarily about T3's or interceptors, CCP wants pilots to own space and make it "theirs" but have instituted mechanics that directly contradict that sentiment. Is it so much to ask that if I spend the time and isk to ship into something that can defeat interdiction nullification? You can not tell me that t3's and interceptors are not afforded the luxury of operating in hostile space with relative impunity. The problem is there is no way of countering these ships other than luck of the draw. It's far from a level playing field regardless of how much isk or effort is put into the defense of what you call yours. Have a look at the OP again and tell me exactly what isn't fair about what has been proposed.