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Does the K-Space location of a wormhole have any effect?

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Nightingale Actault
Borderland Dynamics
#21 - 2014-05-16 20:05:39 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
have whatever upgrades that are responsible for more WH's


My understanding was that those upgrades didn't even work.
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#22 - 2014-05-16 20:30:43 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Ya know its hard to even say given that the OP has given very little pertinent information. Are the WH's you are finding k162's?

If so I guess it's possible that lots of peeps in wicked creek have whatever upgrades that are responsible for more WH's, so they get more, and therefore you find the other end more often.



That makes sense. I probably enter K162's at least half the time.
Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
#23 - 2014-05-16 23:41:38 UTC
If your talking about k162's inbound; yeah it's random. Some regions will have more people scanning wh's down hence more k162.

What's interesting is during the times I lived in multiple c1-c3, the statics atleast 40% of the time lead to a specific rat space. For example, my last c3 dumped out to blood raider rat space easily 4/10 times.
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2014-05-17 06:17:38 UTC
If you compare the massive number of random wormholes with the massive number of eve players.
And then assume that only those that have crazy unlikely things happen to them will make forum posts about it.

Then you get a perfectly logical and..

GODAMMIT I don't have 777 likes anymore :<
ViRtUoZone
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#25 - 2014-05-17 06:32:33 UTC
Odds are that if you're flying through wormholes leading to highsec or other parts of empire you've noticed that they mostly lead to Amarrian space, this is still random, it only occurs because Amarr owns more space in highsec than any other empire.

Hope this cleared up what you were asking.

Also when a wormhole is jumped through for the first time, only then does the wormhole on the other side open up. So naturally if there is a higher concentration of players in a specific region, it makes sense that you would find more wormholes to that region.
Kirasten
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-05-17 06:57:15 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
If you compare the massive number of random wormholes with the massive number of eve players.
And then assume that only those that have crazy unlikely things happen to them will make forum posts about it.

Then you get a perfectly logical and..

GODAMMIT I don't have 777 likes anymore :<



This made my day.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#27 - 2014-05-17 10:29:53 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
If you compare the massive number of random wormholes with the massive number of eve players.
And then assume that only those that have crazy unlikely things happen to them will make forum posts about it.

Then you get a perfectly logical and..

GODAMMIT I don't have 777 likes anymore :<


888 is generally considered the good luck charm for wealth. So no worries.
BayneNothos
United Electro-Magnetic Federation
Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
#28 - 2014-05-17 10:35:01 UTC
I know what you mean. I get a lot of Amarr exits.

So code can't do random in the way we think of random, as in picking a number out of nowhere. Code instead uses something as an initial number and throws it through some equations to come up with something that feels random. As such over time, you may notice a pattern (humans are awesome at that) if you use a random function with a seed (initial number) that's regular. Most random numbers are made of time and/or date or somesuch other number always available. It could be that whatever formula CCP uses is using time alone and times that are close together (as in you play more or less the same time each night) are creating "random" numbers that are similar and thus generating systems that are nearby.

Anyone up for jumping on Sisi for the next month once a day and initialising warp to a k space exit at the same time to see what happens?

Other option is confirmation bias. You don't like Wicked Creek so Wicked Creek exits stand out more so it feels like you always get them. Maybe try recording every region every time you head out?
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-05-18 02:52:10 UTC
I don't know about NS statics, but my hole has a hisec static. Eventually the entire corp just moved their crap to Amarr because between our static and our C1's probable static we almost always were closest to Amarr. I bet 5 of 7 days we'd have an Amarr exit available. I have no idea why, but sometimes you just have to relax and think of England.

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Angsty Teenager
Broski North
SAMURAI SOUL'd OUT
#30 - 2014-05-18 14:45:48 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
I don't know about NS statics, but my hole has a hisec static. Eventually the entire corp just moved their crap to Amarr because between our static and our C1's probable static we almost always were closest to Amarr. I bet 5 of 7 days we'd have an Amarr exit available. I have no idea why, but sometimes you just have to relax and think of England.


There are significantly more amarr systems/regions in the game than the other races. See:

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Empire_space#Empire_Sovereignty_Listing

It's unsurprising therefore that you saw amarr more often. Just as people see drone lands nullsecs more often than others.
Bronya Boga
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2014-05-18 15:52:40 UTC
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
in fairness, we have lived in wormholes now just over 5 weeks. we have noticed that we get drone region nullsecs a LOT and the rest are only on and off wormholes that we sometimes get.. dont know why!



You can see a patern in anything if you look hard enough. Wormholes are completely random
Bronya Boga
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2014-05-18 15:53:57 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
I don't know about NS statics, but my hole has a hisec static. Eventually the entire corp just moved their crap to Amarr because between our static and our C1's probable static we almost always were closest to Amarr. I bet 5 of 7 days we'd have an Amarr exit available. I have no idea why, but sometimes you just have to relax and think of England.


High count of systems near amarr is the reason. You welcome.
Aderoth Anstian
Heaven's End
#33 - 2014-05-18 16:33:33 UTC
Nightingale Actault wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
have whatever upgrades that are responsible for more WH's


My understanding was that those upgrades didn't even work.


Any evidence for this? The wormhole upgrade seemed like the only way a wormhole alliance could move to 0.0 while retaining their identity as a wormhole alliance.
Nightingale Actault
Borderland Dynamics
#34 - 2014-05-18 17:11:29 UTC
Aderoth Anstian wrote:
Nightingale Actault wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
have whatever upgrades that are responsible for more WH's


My understanding was that those upgrades didn't even work.


Any evidence for this? The wormhole upgrade seemed like the only way a wormhole alliance could move to 0.0 while retaining their identity as a wormhole alliance.


Wormhole alliances don't live in 0.0.

http://eve-search.com/thread/1254997-0
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1380323
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=180244
Citrute
The High and Mighty
Carebear Abortion Clinic
#35 - 2014-05-19 03:45:21 UTC
Nightingale Actault wrote:
My understanding was that those upgrades didn't even work.

They do,
Don't mean to add more misinformation to the rumors, but from what I understand the wormholes spawn at downtime and are not statics, its also not 100% chance every day with the highest tier upgrade, but pretty close.
Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
#36 - 2014-05-19 06:45:38 UTC
Yeah, just checked, amarr has 40% of empire. Problably also the reason that trade hub takes blue loot.
Torrent Rage
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-05-19 21:00:14 UTC
There was one week 3-4 months ago where our c5 had a k162 that went to the same null constellation 5 times.2 of which were the same system. This was 5 of our maybe 9 backdoors that week. Very general but it was quite interesting to me. Since then nothing crazy like that.
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#38 - 2014-05-20 07:04:07 UTC
Here I am out by Wicked Creek again. Totally random!
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#39 - 2014-05-20 17:36:35 UTC
Harrison Tato wrote:
Here I am out by Wicked Creek again. Totally random!


Good, you finally understood. Now you can close the thread!
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