Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I personally feel like these changes are a bit heavy handed. The jump freighters especially bother me. As with those changes, almost every aspect of the freighter is reduced. Having the option to rig the ships allows for some customization but at the end of the day, all the rigs do is Maybe bring ONE of the freighter back to its previous stats with little to no net positive :/. So i could restore part of my Cargo capacity at the cost of losing a large chunk of my EHP AND still having the nerf to align time.

I think its good if the freighters are toned back a bit but not to such a heavy degree. For example instead of reducing the Ark's cargo bay by 76000. Reduce it by 40000. That way if you rig for cargo you will have a reasonable net positive which may out way the negative of losing so much EHP. I think the biggest problem I have with the changes is that it feel like you lose out pretty heavily no matter what rigs you use. Seems almost more worthwhile to leave it unrigged and hemorrhage your losses.

I think it would be cool if you could introduce freighter specific rigs that do interesting things that may alter decision making/gameplay. I always liked the idea of a JF rig that would increase Jump range by 15% but if you are utilizing that range it would also have a 25% increased fuel cost for the extra distance traveled. So if say I jump to a beacon that is 10 LYs away im still within the standard range of the freighter so i dont receive the fuel penalty but say I jump to a beacon 13 LY away, because im utilizing the extra range I eat the 25% fuel penalty for the extra 3 LY used.

I also feel like this change is aimed pretty heavily towards incentivizing nullsec industry over importing which I suppose is a healthy thing for the game considering that by importing everything it leaves a lot of players in nullsec without anything to build.

Id say tweak the numbers some more so that the player doesnt feel like they are losing out on all sides regardless of what rig you pick. Im completely okay with the ships power being reduced I just dont want to feel like im losing out so much.

I am no expert on balance nor am I very good at trying to come up with solutions to EVE many many complex systems, I usually leave that to other people that are far smarter than I haha but I feel very strongly about this subject and I want to try and offer some constructive criticism.

Thanks for your time
Saint

I am really thinking that CCP Fozzie is the most appropriate named Dev on the team, as in Fozzie bear, known for the bad jokes and dumb ideas. can someone please tell us he has been an elaborate joke on the EvE player base for the last few years?

this reminds me a LOT of the first mothership "buff" that had to be totally scrapped and rethought due to the overwhelming player outcry.

I think you missed this key quote from #14

As an industrialist, I find it really telling that all the proposed industry changes make me want to stop doing industry.


What we have here is a failure to communicate.

Odds that Fozzie posts in or even reads this thread again after today? Near zero I would bet.

This is exactly what we said would happen if freighters got rigs. The nerfs are all needed because of the rigs (aside from the agility nerf)

This is completely in line with what CCP intends for all ships. They're forcing you to make a choice which will require you to think for yourself. More choices are almost always a good addition to the game.

You really don't know Fozzie then do you?

Given his history so far I'd bet a plex he keeps up on each and every one of the threads he has posted.

I didn't ask for rigs. I asked for them to be re balanced thoughtfully, given interesting roles or bonuses, or adding in mechanics, means, roles etc, that make flying them more fun, less boring.

You guys are nearly as unoriginal and lacking in creativity as fozzy.

I spent the last two years telling people adding rigs would result in these nerfs and got nothing but abuse. You will forgive me if I take this time to smug it out while these same people rage about what they have brought upon themselves.