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Now that CCP has readjusted the wheel and are facing north again...

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non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#61 - 2011-12-03 19:47:47 UTC
Zerakix wrote:
non judgement wrote:
Zerakix wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Democracy with the votes of 10% of the population is not real democracy, but a flavor of oligarchy. And the answer is not getting rid of voting, but to gather more voting.

CSM would make a lot more of sense if players were forced to vote after login so every last 350,000th account was asked and had to bloody cast a vote, if even a random one (random order of appearence of the options would fix any bias caused by random voting, and all in all random voting would be a white noise canceling itself).

Also could give the players an Australian voting system so they could both vote for or vote against candidates, and there you go...


If only 10% of the population cares enough to bother voting why make the rest vote if they don't care enough now with how easy it is to spend ~5mins casting a vote online? It's not like they have to drive to a polling station and since it seems to already be far to much trouble for them to vote forcing them to vote will only serve to annoy them more.

I voted for Trebor simply because I flew with him at one point I didn't research opinions or stances of the candidates I just voted the one I knew at one point in the past. Most people just won't bother to research the candidates and since unlike real life there no simple newspapers or TV news to read/watch to find out about the candidates. The non-voting 90% wouldn't know who to vote for and probably wouldn't care and would just pick one at random or who ever was at the top of the list. Is the list of candidates static or randomly ordered and generated? Because if you force them to vote who ever is on top or at least before the fold will win.

That's a good point. The list should be in a random order. I thought that the people who don't know who to vote for would just balance out each other. Just voting for the top person on the list seems really odd to me. I guess a few people would do that though. Is there some research on this type of thing? Or are you just making this stuff up? Because you're obviously for to the right not to vote. I'd suggest that huge fund raisers and paying heaps of money to get people to vote for you is such a great idea. Does the person who gets the most money from fund raisers in the States, win the election? It seems like a huge waste of money if you ask me.


Well this is a game and if they couldn't be bothered to vote willingly why would they care who they vote for if they're forced to vote?

That's the point. They wouldn't really. But what happens with their vote if they don't care. Doesn't it just become a random vote for someone based on not much at all. Which would balance out with all the other random votes. My point was more about why would those people, forced to vote, just click on the top person in the list. If I was forced to vote on something I didn't care about, I'd click randomly in the list based on things like how much I like the name not just clicking the top person.
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#62 - 2011-12-03 19:50:13 UTC
It is a big fat boat, what he must have meant is that they turned the wheel .. the actual course correction will take place over the next two years or more. Goddess knows that the Crutch patch didn't have much of anything that couldn't be done by any spreadsheet monkey.

None of the really hard calls have been made:
- Null sovereignty.
- FW.
- Risk/Reward (some hard nerfs needed in some areas, and no not lvl4s).
- Gang rather than fleet warfare (they keep adding the goddamn EHP grind crap .. Grrrrrr!!!!)
Etc.

Make the same thread in the autumn of 2013 and I might support it provided the turn proved succesful.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#63 - 2011-12-03 20:14:04 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
hey guys lets build a bunch of outposts in feythabolis and sell out our allies as soon as sir molle looks at us crosswise, then beg those same allies we betrayed to save us from bob, then spend years on the forums periodically whining about ~immoral~ goons while positively wallowing in our shortsighted hypocrisy



... That pertty much sums up that war... I caught the tail end of that one when i wandered out into 0.0

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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#64 - 2011-12-04 09:30:07 UTC
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