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FW plexes/missions for FW players only
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Adobe Raide
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-05-17 09:43:17 UTC
Griefers habitually exploit the FW mechanic to get into fights in a way that is advantageous to them. The game should not allow this and it definitely shouldn't encourage it.

If someone enters an FW plex or mission they should either be in FW already or flagged as hostile to all FW sides - and to the NPCs in the plex or mission. Not a security or criminal flag. It's a sided war flag and should last significantly longer (FW flags are permanent for their players, should also be for the griefers that like to make 'surprise visits' to FW arenas).

There is no good reason that griefers should get an advantage in FW arenas.
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#2 - 2014-05-17 09:45:04 UTC
Welcome to lowsec. Say hello to Santo for me.

Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-05-17 10:01:35 UTC
You're playing a PVP playstyle, in a PVP area, in a PVP game. And you are complaining about PVP.

I think the problem here is obvious...
Iudicium Vastus
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-05-17 10:02:56 UTC
I can support this. And hope it eventually does become a thing.

It makes no sense for neutrals to be there, under any mechanic sense, nor even lore sense. There is no argument for something to gain in a plex while not in a milita. It is a militarized zone. It's not like a DED site where a neutral comes in to compete for the final drop. It's not a mission where someone can come into your site and begin looting/salvaging. There is nothing of any value or to gain in a plex for someone not in faction warfare. They can only be there for hostilities against a member of the empire.

Though I would like to see what kind of argument can be made for a neutral gain in a faction warfare complex. Occupied or not.
What can a neutral gain by going into a plex that is empty? I doubt they can run the timer down and gain. I doubt they're there for the non-bounty rat. I don't think there are any faction/officer spawns in there at random to wait for. Nor any rare or valuable ores to mine.

Tell me and make an argument. What is there in a plex for gain to a neutral party?
If you can make a case that there is something to gain or compete over from an empty plex to a neutral party, then there may be an argument there for that same neutral to also come while it is occupied. But until then, it makes no gain/mechanic/lore sense for neutrals to go into empire militarized zones.

[u]Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW?[/u] No, just.. -Fit more points -Fit faction points -Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too)