Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Malcanis' Law: Anything designed to help new players will invariably work to the greater benefit of older, more experienced players.

Malcanis' Law holds true here as well. Players would abuse this by creating alts en masse and would skill them up later on down the road when they feel like it.

I can pretty much guarantee you that CCP will never consider any move that gives players within a certain demographic more skill points than others, unless it is a free item that allows players with a low enough SP to train faster, regardless of their age. Another problem with the suggestion is that it does nothing to help low SP players who are actually new, and in so doing, as Malcanis' Law applies, actually would hurt newer players merely by giving older players an advantage over them in the skill point department.

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I can suggest an alternative: advice on how to train for the things you want. As a matter of fact I myself have done a marvelous job of picking all of the right things to train for specific goals I have had, and have happily met with and exceeded my own expectations. I'd be more than happy to share some insight into my training habits, or offer advice to anyone who wants it. Just send me an EVE-mail and I'll probably reply within the day, sometimes right away.

Here's a tip just to get you guys started:
Figure out what you want to do in EVE--make a list of things. Figure out what you can achieve first and try to plan a shorter training path over the long term to achieve that. For instance, if you want to fly interceptors and heavy interdictors so you can tackle a lot, then you want to start with a fast frigate, like the Atron. You can wait to train Gallente Frigate to 5 because right now you want to train those lower, more important support skills for that frigate. You need to get webifier and warp disruptor skills, defense modules, propulsion modules, and rigs. Once you've got a decent tech 1 fit going for that Atron, you can start considering how long it'll take to train interceptor vs. tech 2 modules, etc. Don't be too quick to devote yourself to a long skill. Often you can get what you want sooner, if you are willing to cross-train a little and explore your options. And you want a lot of options because any one style will always invariably get boring after a while.

My rule of thumb is to train every attractive skill available to low levels before devoting yourself to higher level skills. Specialization is best done once you've started trainign skills to 5.

A specialization tip of mine is to first train all the tech 1 ship skills at least to 1 or 2 so you can try all the ships and styles. Once you have chosen a favorite race, put most of your training into their main skills, but also cross-train into that which can cross over to other races. Example: if you are training Minmatar, you want projectile and shield skills. You also want to spend a little time dabbling in missiles (will help you cross to Caldari when you want to) and armor defenses (will give you more access to armor fleets). That way if you later decide you don't like Minmatar projectile ships, you can try flying some missile ships, or if you don't like shield tanking you can try armor tanking.

Pretty much this ^^

Instead of thinking of SP as something you deserve based on your char age... think of them instead as a reward for being subbed.

If you don't want to stop accumulating SP... stay subbed... it's actually really simple.

Not supported.

OP, no matter how well intentioned your proposal I cannot support in any shape or form any type of payment for an increased training speed or for SP gain. It would be the thin end of a wedge that would be used to lever open the pay2win door.

If I'm honest I wouldn't even allow the trade in characters. That said do I understand that the Character Bazaar exists as means of keeping a cap on the RMTing of characters outside of the game.

We need more support for new players to see their options. Too many believe they need a lot of SP to play. This simply isn't true. More SP backs you up. Fact is, you can have before you the chance to try a little bit of almost every low-end profession and run back and forth between them not knowing what you want with just one trial account's worth of SP.

If you feel like players aren't taking you seriously because you're new, tell them you want to go far as fast as you can, hit the ground running. Tell them you want to go balls-deep and learn how to play. Let them know you aren't just going to slug around highsec training exhumers and interplanetary consolidation 5 for the next few months. Most experienced players won't invite you into their corps because you might be a spy but they will spend time with you and show you the ropes, or just throw some ISK at you and trust you make good use of it. They may invite you to fleet roams and help you get some PVP experience. The most important thing in their eyes is just that you seem like you want to go far.

Maintaining the current sp acquisition method should go a long way towards ensuring that.
Power Grinding puts adults off mmo's, who the **** has the time for that anyway.