Player Features and Ideas Discussion

currently what does finding out a wormhole's class involve? one of two things

recognizing a graphic through a visual distortion effect

looking up the locus ID on an external website

neither is conducive to gameplay (think of the noobs)

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sorta repeating myself, but lemme expand on my previous post: high sec, low sec, null sec, and c6 wormholes are already readily identifiable via show info, so why not c1-5 (doesn't it strike you as incomplete, or an oversight that could use some consistency)

I say make the wormhole description say, "this is a wormhole. It goes somewhere and there's no return. Deal with it."

Then make all wormholes one way and auto-collapse after 30 minutes.

This would make wormhole activities epic because you'd have to go prepared and take everything you need with your fleet.

Proper adventures for the properly brave.

It's not THAT hard to get the class of the wh (or very close to it) from the text and the visual info. Yes, you'll have to pick up a few things that aren't necessarely in game, but let's face it, you'd do that anyway no matter what you think of doing.

As you can see the nebula through the wh, you can kinda see what part of space it leads to. It wouldn't be too big of a stretch to think that you could possibly find out what kind of k-space it is by the info "leaking" through the wormhole. As there is no concord network in wh-space telling you what class it is, the info isn't accurate

And you think that "think of the noobs" is a valid reason to change things? Or that because you have to look up things out of game is a valid point why CCP should change the texts? How many sites have you bookmarked for getting info that is not in game?

In my view nothing about the characteristics of w-space should be published at all. They shouldn't even have j-numbers.

You should just be 'somewhere'

And wormholes should have a 30 minute lifetime, unlimited mass and be one-way. There should be no type identifiers and no possibility of identifying the class of space or special effects without trial and error.

There should be no anomalies, no customs offices and all signatures should have the name "unidentified signature" with no pop up describing the site until you arrive.

This would actually make w-space adventures into real adventures, increase the rarity and desirability of t3 ships, and eliminate the wanton Isk farming that goes on in w-space.

it's obscure

chitsa jason mentioned that in minutes: wormholes on low graphics settings

I'm agreeing with you, my level of familiarity is limited to what you described, and it's kinda bad when neither of us is dumb.

peeking works when the system is k-space, but how do you determine whether the k162 dangerous you've recently entered was to a c4 or c5? (without opening external websites)?

that mystery is fine, but my issue is based on the inconsistency: why do class 6 wormholes have the only definitive show info, and if the head IDs are listed (P060, N766, C247, X877 etc.), why is the head and tail system class not included?

CCP Soundwave (Riot In Pace) mentioned that on board systems are about as intelligent as a 70's Buick, and even back then (2012) they were looking to move away from that. doesn't this strike you as odd that your systems recognize named wormhole heads, but won't tell you anything about the class it leads to?

I'll admit my scanning process: probe signatures and bookmark, let siggy record my trail, and determine what is what after a section of the chain needs to be arranged in the table.

I was waiting for someone to mention the anomaly names. It's not very obscure but it still took quite a few pairs of eyes before it was answered.