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State of current PVP in the game. FW and Solo roam focused

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iHex NZ
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-05-14 08:45:41 UTC  |  Edited by: iHex NZ
Hi All,

I left with a 74m SP PVP toon, X Tusker.

Had 2 toons at a medium POS manufacturing 23/7 while I solo roamed.

Had a few bill in the wallet, but RL got in the way and had to unsub.

I left the game around the time Kil2 joined CCP.

Is Bringing Solo Back still operating?

What is the state of PVP for FW and Solo roaming?

I fly generally C and AF, solo, no links etc...

What are these interceptor gangs I am now hearing about? Fit for anti-frig?

Still have FW farmers I see and where is one to make ISK in the game now? LP still valuable? or Bounties?

On NZ/AU TZ so if anyones about for some roams, hit me up.

Worth coming back?
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#2 - 2014-05-14 10:31:08 UTC
iHex NZ wrote:
Hi All,

I left with a 74m SP PVP toon, X Tusker.

Had 2 toons at a medium POS manufacturing 23/7 while I solo roamed.

Had a few bill in the wallet, but RL got in the way and had to unsub.

I left the game around the time Kil2 joined CCP.

Is Bringing Solo Back still operating?

What is the state of PVP for FW and Solo roaming?

I fly generally C and AF, solo, no links etc...

What are these interceptor gangs I am now hearing about? Fit for anti-frig?

Still have FW farmers I see and where is one to make ISK in the game now? LP still valuable? or Bounties?

On NZ/AU TZ so if anyones about for some roams, hit me up.

Worth coming back?


Well hey there! My fave minnie soloer XD Is it worth coming back for the solo? hmm its not dead but it's always hard. Nothing much has actually changed, just slight meta changes from when you last rolled. Others would argue but Eve mechanics are exactly the same with a few stat changes.

Amarr/Minnie warzone is basically dead in your tz as far as I can tell, although you'll always find a certain sis resident looking for solo fights.

BSB is still operating last i heard and and as for gangs of inti's sure it's a thing, mostly in null in all honesty. In FW land you are always safer having a kiting fit unless you don't expect to get home, but you knew that as it's not changed.

See you around I'm sure iHex, hope to see you back.
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Meta Reloaded
#3 - 2014-05-14 13:00:39 UTC
Solo is most definitely alive and well. Bringing solo back is operating at full steam, with regulars like myself always happy to chat. Inty blobs are indeed very prevalent, so fitting with a way to deal with frigs would be wise. Other than that, the mat has changed quite a bit, warp speed changes make anything bigger than a cruiser slow as hell when traveling.

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#4 - 2014-05-14 13:42:57 UTC
Come on back. Watching internet spaceships go boom is a blast.

JUSTK is recruiting
iHex NZ
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-05-15 00:46:31 UTC
I see these new fandangled Armor repairs similar to the ASB. How viable are these solo, do they work the same?
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#6 - 2014-05-15 00:58:31 UTC
iHex NZ wrote:
I see these new fandangled Armor repairs similar to the ASB. How viable are these solo, do they work the same?


They are all but required equipment for armor tanked ships.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#7 - 2014-05-15 11:19:36 UTC
BSB has been a shithole for a very long time.

Just.. go pvp..

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#8 - 2014-05-15 11:27:43 UTC
Current state of the meta is very small ship prevelant. Interceptors, warp speed mechanics, the proliferation of logi and EAFs (the most OP **** ever) makes things slightly more difficult.

Currently finding a ship that is not only fast enough to deal with intys, but still have the DPS and projection to handle other ECM / blob threats is very heard to come by. After the Kronos expansion, things should get much easier. After the introduction of the new mordus line / sansha line things will beomce much easier for the solo / super small gnag player.

Until then hower, here are a few ships that can work well solo.

Heretic: LML SAAR fit
Omen: Shield fit, no point. Generally flown in gang
Nomen: Armor / point for solo or Shield for small gang
Zealot: Shield for gang
ANY EAF: Sentinel is great for solo, others are amazing fleet ships
Oracle: Shield pulse laser fit- best DPS support ship in game
Diemos: Rail / shield or Blaster Shield fit
Thorax: Rail shield or rail armor fit
Arty Wolf
Slicer
Rail DD
Vigilant: Rail / Blaster shield fit
Tornado: 800MM Web / shield fit. Flown in gangs only
Celestis: Gang ECM Support
Ishtar: Shield kiting / drones*** One of the most OP ships in game currently
Vexor Navy


And that about wraps it up. With the new warp speed changes, flying things larger than a cruiser outside of a gang- is a really, really dangerous idea. BS are completely out of the question and BCs are all ****. Except for the oracle / nado. Other than that Missiles are pretty much useless (HMLs / HAM's) are really **** at applying damage. So your choices are going to be a bit limited.

Good Luck.
Aiyshimin
Shiva Furnace
#9 - 2014-05-15 12:42:58 UTC
Chessur wrote:
BS are completely out of the question and BCs are all ****. Except for the oracle / nado.


It looks like CCP doesn't really care about making BSes solo viable, but at least they are useful in fleets, unlike BCs. Combat BCs have all but disappeared and that's something they need to look at sooner or later. Cruiser hulls are blatantly better choice for approximately every situation ever over BCs.

Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#10 - 2014-05-15 15:07:03 UTC
Aiyshimin wrote:
Chessur wrote:
BS are completely out of the question and BCs are all ****. Except for the oracle / nado.


It looks like CCP doesn't really care about making BSes solo viable, but at least they are useful in fleets, unlike BCs. Combat BCs have all but disappeared and that's something they need to look at sooner or later. Cruiser hulls are blatantly better choice for approximately every situation ever over BCs.



Sadly I spoke with fozzie / rize about this point at Fanfest 2014.... To put it lightly, they really didn't seem to have BC / ABC's on their radar when it came to recent ship balancing. Apparently they need more time to see how they are used / what effect they are having on the current game. From what they told me, 1 year after the last BC work through, they still need more information before they consider making any changes.

That being said, the Machariel having a base warp speed of 3 is actually pretty nice. Throw on a T2 hyperspacial, and you can get close to 3.5 AU which is faster than a HAC. So it might be flyable. Any other BS is just way to slow right now. Warp speed changes were such a bad idea.... Soloing is very difficult with these super fast intys around, especially when you are flying anything cruise and above.
iHex NZ
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-05-15 21:46:31 UTC
Chessur wrote:
Current state of the meta is very small ship prevelant. Interceptors, warp speed mechanics, the proliferation of logi and EAFs (the most OP **** ever) makes things slightly more difficult.

Currently finding a ship that is not only fast enough to deal with intys, but still have the DPS and projection to handle other ECM / blob threats is very heard to come by. After the Kronos expansion, things should get much easier. After the introduction of the new mordus line / sansha line things will beomce much easier for the solo / super small gnag player.

Until then hower, here are a few ships that can work well solo.

Heretic: LML SAAR fit
Omen: Shield fit, no point. Generally flown in gang
Nomen: Armor / point for solo or Shield for small gang
Zealot: Shield for gang
ANY EAF: Sentinel is great for solo, others are amazing fleet ships
Oracle: Shield pulse laser fit- best DPS support ship in game
Diemos: Rail / shield or Blaster Shield fit
Thorax: Rail shield or rail armor fit
Arty Wolf
Slicer
Rail DD
Vigilant: Rail / Blaster shield fit
Tornado: 800MM Web / shield fit. Flown in gangs only
Celestis: Gang ECM Support
Ishtar: Shield kiting / drones*** One of the most OP ships in game currently
Vexor Navy


And that about wraps it up. With the new warp speed changes, flying things larger than a cruiser outside of a gang- is a really, really dangerous idea. BS are completely out of the question and BCs are all ****. Except for the oracle / nado. Other than that Missiles are pretty much useless (HMLs / HAM's) are really **** at applying damage. So your choices are going to be a bit limited.

Good Luck.


Exactly what I was looking for Chessur, thanks mate.

Went out in my Wolf & SFI last night.

SFI
5x 425mm
MWD
Point
LSE
Web
3x TE
2x Gyro
1x DC
5x Warriors

Usually very good for dealing with frigs and blobs sending tacklers out.

But I met one of the new SOE Frigs, I was sitting in a FW plex, 5 in local, 2 WT, been there for 25 mins, checking nothing on Long DScan & short DScan every few secs (As a bittervet does).

Then a wild frig appears, Decloaks, web/scram, I start going to town on him, get him down to 1/2 armor, thinking hes dead, then Logi shows up...

I soon die, thinking to myself, I now need to educate myself on this NEW EVE and its nasty new ships, 'oldschool' doesn't work anymore.

It seems adapt or die. :)

Don't say I now need a Logi alt to tag along with. :)
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#12 - 2014-05-15 21:56:22 UTC
iHex NZ wrote:
Chessur wrote:
Current state of the meta is very small ship prevelant. Interceptors, warp speed mechanics, the proliferation of logi and EAFs (the most OP **** ever) makes things slightly more difficult.

Currently finding a ship that is not only fast enough to deal with intys, but still have the DPS and projection to handle other ECM / blob threats is very heard to come by. After the Kronos expansion, things should get much easier. After the introduction of the new mordus line / sansha line things will beomce much easier for the solo / super small gnag player.

Until then hower, here are a few ships that can work well solo.

Heretic: LML SAAR fit
Omen: Shield fit, no point. Generally flown in gang
Nomen: Armor / point for solo or Shield for small gang
Zealot: Shield for gang
ANY EAF: Sentinel is great for solo, others are amazing fleet ships
Oracle: Shield pulse laser fit- best DPS support ship in game
Diemos: Rail / shield or Blaster Shield fit
Thorax: Rail shield or rail armor fit
Arty Wolf
Slicer
Rail DD
Vigilant: Rail / Blaster shield fit
Tornado: 800MM Web / shield fit. Flown in gangs only
Celestis: Gang ECM Support
Ishtar: Shield kiting / drones*** One of the most OP ships in game currently
Vexor Navy


And that about wraps it up. With the new warp speed changes, flying things larger than a cruiser outside of a gang- is a really, really dangerous idea. BS are completely out of the question and BCs are all ****. Except for the oracle / nado. Other than that Missiles are pretty much useless (HMLs / HAM's) are really **** at applying damage. So your choices are going to be a bit limited.

Good Luck.


Exactly what I was looking for Chessur, thanks mate.

Went out in my Wolf & SFI last night.

SFI
5x 425mm
MWD
Point
LSE
Web
3x TE
2x Gyro
1x DC
5x Warriors

Usually very good for dealing with frigs and blobs sending tacklers out.

But I met one of the new SOE Frigs, I was sitting in a FW plex, 5 in local, 2 WT, been there for 25 mins, checking nothing on Long DScan & short DScan every few secs (As a bittervet does).

Then a wild frig appears, Decloaks, web/scram, I start going to town on him, get him down to 1/2 armor, thinking hes dead, then Logi shows up...

I soon die, thinking to myself, I now need to educate myself on this NEW EVE and its nasty new ships, 'oldschool' doesn't work anymore.

It seems adapt or die. :)

Don't say I now need a Logi alt to tag along with. :)


Yah SFI's are complete ****. If you are in scram / web range of something you are doing it very, very wrong. Arty wolf is good. But i dont like roaming in frigs, because you can only fight 1/2 frigs only. Anything else on the grid and you are most likely ******.

PS: If you are interested in any particualr ship, let me know and I can shoot you a fit
Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#13 - 2014-05-16 05:02:15 UTC
solo is dead. the current meta is cheap t1 frigate/cruiser logi. nobody fights without reps. or more friends than you.

Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
Aiyshimin
Shiva Furnace
#14 - 2014-05-16 09:59:14 UTC
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
solo is dead. the current meta is cheap t1 frigate/cruiser logi. nobody fights without reps. or more friends than you.



lol

most fights have no logi, and of course everyone has more friends than a crybaby.
Artuard Envien
Space-Brewery-Association
#15 - 2014-05-16 12:47:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Artuard Envien
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
solo is dead. the current meta is cheap t1 frigate/cruiser logi. nobody fights without reps. or more friends than you.





This is probaby because you live in amarr - minmatar area. I can still find loads of solo content every day where I live. It's not easy but still possible to create such content yourself by flying mwd kite frig - cruisers: seperating gangs, ambushes etc.
Mario Putzo
#16 - 2014-05-16 19:28:26 UTC
Solo in Min/Amarr area is pretty nice, you have to be conscious of "blobs" though, but really that applies anywhere you solo. Fleet fighting is also alive and well in the FW areas. Non FW LS is kind of stale, but sometimes you can find some stuff to shoot at.

Exploration is a pretty nice way to get engageable fights as well, Stratios or a T3 scan down a site, and then go hang out and wait for some fool to come and do it, then blap him whatever.

LS is alive and well, and should only improve with upcoming changes directed to it (Ore redistribution, Mordus Drops, K space WH changes)
iHex NZ
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-05-17 01:36:46 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Solo in Min/Amarr area is pretty nice, you have to be conscious of "blobs" though, but really that applies anywhere you solo. Fleet fighting is also alive and well in the FW areas. Non FW LS is kind of stale, but sometimes you can find some stuff to shoot at.

Exploration is a pretty nice way to get engageable fights as well, Stratios or a T3 scan down a site, and then go hang out and wait for some fool to come and do it, then blap him whatever.

LS is alive and well, and should only improve with upcoming changes directed to it (Ore redistribution, Mordus Drops, K space WH changes)


I believe its my TZ thats the issue, (NZ/AU) Last few nights I left FW Mini/Amarr zone and headed into Provi with my Railrax. Went well, number of small gangs and camps. Killed a few tackle. Might hunt there for a few days an try it out. Looks promising.
JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
#18 - 2014-05-17 01:40:12 UTC
Solo is healthy.

The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts.
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#19 - 2014-05-17 04:56:05 UTC
iHex NZ wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Solo in Min/Amarr area is pretty nice, you have to be conscious of "blobs" though, but really that applies anywhere you solo. Fleet fighting is also alive and well in the FW areas. Non FW LS is kind of stale, but sometimes you can find some stuff to shoot at.

Exploration is a pretty nice way to get engageable fights as well, Stratios or a T3 scan down a site, and then go hang out and wait for some fool to come and do it, then blap him whatever.

LS is alive and well, and should only improve with upcoming changes directed to it (Ore redistribution, Mordus Drops, K space WH changes)


I believe its my TZ thats the issue, (NZ/AU) Last few nights I left FW Mini/Amarr zone and headed into Provi with my Railrax. Went well, number of small gangs and camps. Killed a few tackle. Might hunt there for a few days an try it out. Looks promising.


Some of us are trying to keep solo 1v1s alive in Min/Amarr as well, and if you get back behind the main systems on either side your luck will generally be better.
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#20 - 2014-05-21 07:07:19 UTC
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
solo is dead. the current meta is cheap t1 frigate/cruiser logi. nobody fights without reps. or more friends than you.



Non-fw lowsec seems to generate more solo fights. I think it's just in its nature to do so as a kind of wilderness area. If we had more lowsec yet again you might see even more solo fights - provided you can find anyone.
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