Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Wardec is an important war registry for PVP corporations. One don't want his enemy to get away easily under the wing of mighty Concord.

Wardec also creats disturbance to the growth of small corp. Many times I saw new players of several months old banding together to form a small corp. for the purpose of group activities such as mining or exploration. Whenever their number of members grows to a double digit that wardec is worth the effort, wardec comes in and they have to quit the corp to evade becoming a victims of bullying. They may be green but they are no fool. They know they stand zero chance against experienced pvper with their mining ships. No wonder CCP found most high sec players spent their time solo mining or solo mission. Because pve corporation in high sec is simply not an option. If a corporation stands a chance to grow bigger, it has to be a pvp corporation in the beginning.

I really hope there is a way to keep the wardec mechanism but leave those small pve corporations alone(in high sec) so that they have chance to grow as a corporation and may be able to participate in PVP in corporation/alliance level when they are ready. So we can find less lonely miners and solitary missioners in EVE.

Oh shut up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN7jZAIiMLg

Basically, everone purpule that fight had been in the game for under a year, and in some cases just a couple of months, and we were fighting 4-5 year old players, with friends, and neutral NPC pilots suddenly joining corp and into the fight, conveniently close to our ECM.

Go cry harder.

Make it more expencive? HA! most of us who can shove your ship's insides outwards can afford to pay SEVERAL times that ammount a week, while still destroying you.


Seriously, stand up and fight if you want something taken care of. After that encounter, we didn't see much more from them.

I have found the perfect place where no one is griefed, bullied, tortured, harrassed, wardecced, tickled or called out for being incorrect on forums

And the tinfoil is also plentiful

http://www.baco.co.uk/rainbow.shtml

Or learn Cloak and do exploration and WH/low mining

You could do that on a 2 week old toon with ease

Agreed. I am not saying there are no other career paths. However, any money making endeavor that also trains up combat skills simultaneously hits two birds with one stone. It also helps with not being bullied and having other people dictate when you are allowed to have fun in the game you are paying for.

It ultimately comes down to preference. I just consider combat, either solo or in a fleet, much more fun and worthwhile. I also think the game is always changed to punish high sec corps to go out and create content in low/wormhole/null sec so EvE does not die out.

Get with the times. E-Uni hasn't been like that for over two years. Now they let their members do what they want during wardecs. The result being lots of mission battleship losses and threads much like this one on their forums (except there is only one guy there standing up for wardecs as the awesome game mechanic that they are.)

E-Uni definitely doesn't welcome wardecs or use them for PvP training, though. They just advocate for learning to avoid wartargets rather than fighting. Much of the Uni culture is geared towards getting people out of highsec now, first through their low, null, and wormhole campuses, then graduating them to nullsec and wormhole alliances. E-Uni really isn't a highsec entity anymore. Most of their members don't live in highsec.

Or so I hear, anyway, but what do I know? I'm just a one week old newbie who solo wardecs people for fun.

Three more days...

I disagree that CCP intended there always be a reason to declare war.

I disagree that declaring war for no reason other than hoping to get easy kills is abuse.

It is very easy to avoid war dec by simply dropping to NPC corp, playing on an out of corp alt (3 toons per account) or taking a few weeks off from playing.

The primary use of a war dec appears to be to make it harder for corps that are recruiting to actually get new members to join. Actively recruiting for industry and PVE is almost guaranteed way of getting a war dec.


I'll add that the current war mechanics are pretty lame, given how easy they are to avoid, but making them harder to avoid is likely to cause people to drop their subscriptions. So, if there is any argument for changes to war dec it should be based on how little actual fighting occurs because of them.

Whether or not the wardec system is broken or working as intended, the fact remains that the concept on which it is based is broken and rarely used. It's simply a way to legally shoot people in high sec, and that's fine if that's what people like. I think it just sort of takes the **** out of the whole thing because unless it's alliance warfare, it's usually someone who's bored and wants a better chance of shooting people in high sec to pad their killboard. Again, there's nothing wrong with that, but people still refer to them as "war declarations" when the reality is much, much less interesting. What are the stakes for a high sec corporation that gets wardecced, a week of ship spinning in the station? Market PVP? They don't really lose anything but time usually because they're so outmatched.

How wardecs should be:

People I like can dec anyone
People I don't like can't dec anyone

Only people I like are allowed to win.