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Freighter bumping and keeping aggro with newbie ship legal?
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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#101 - 2014-03-24 12:56:38 UTC
This thread is still a thing? WTF?

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Markku Laaksonen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#102 - 2014-03-24 13:37:34 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Hey OP, as someone currently researching and trying to get an interview with this exact ganker (as he has been warming the cockles and sub-cocular regions of this hisec miscreant), he usually asks for and honors a RANSOM before executing his ganks...

Didn't you ultimately die because you refused to pay the ransom offered?

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Ultimately, he died because his structure dropped to 0.

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Real Serious PVPer
Doomheim
#103 - 2014-03-24 13:57:55 UTC
In space, there is no safe passage from one spot to another. Learn to become serious about PVP and have someone else haul.

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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#104 - 2014-03-24 17:00:07 UTC
With that much isk on the line, I would have ganked you too, and I hate gankers.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#105 - 2014-03-24 18:05:19 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
With that much isk on the line, I would have ganked you too, and I hate gankers.


I think many of the anti gankers would gank if they were getting a multibillion ISK share!
Winchester Steele
#106 - 2014-03-24 19:04:25 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Tacomaco wrote:

I don't have that much experience but I think a shuttle is impossible to attack if flown properly.



Well, you're right about your first 6 words of that sentence, anyway.

People pop shuttles by the buttload every day. Mostly because some people give the incredibly bad advice to run blueprints in them, so for the tiny amount of firepower it takes to pop them, it might pay off huge.



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Matogg
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#107 - 2014-03-25 01:24:43 UTC
Jared Lennox wrote:
people assume that CODE is only about money and extortion. No my friend, CODE does not let any illegal activity in it's vicinity (All High Sec) empty or not it is indifferent DO NOT AFK AROUND US BRAH !


No Jarod ....People don't assume anything ....CODE assumes that people are AFK .
You're so concerned with getting the gank that you don't notice if a freighter is slow boating or a miner just doesn't have his screen wide enough to notice your approach .
Both of which , I agree are bad choices but hardly enough to prevent the intentions of you guys in most instances . Nor should they have to .

Not about money and extortion ?? Shocked Don't make me laugh !!
The reason you operate in hi-sec is because it's the most amount of money and the least amount of risk of any place in all of EvE ....read my post in "Gankers List"
Plus the ships in Isanamo were shot solely because they weren't wearing your punked-out bio extortion stuff so even if you are brainwashed by all the tripe you read in the minerbumping link I doubt that anybody else is .
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#108 - 2014-03-25 22:18:48 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Jared Lennox wrote:
DO NOT AFK AROUND US BRAH !

+1 to some very good advice for whatever you're doing in Eve. If you want to AFK just dock and log off.

The only thing I could find in the OP's post that might draw the eye of CCP is that disposable noob ships were used to keep the aggro timer going to prevent log off. I don't think CCP would care unless it became a common occurrence.


It is a common occurrence, but even if CCP did decide that using rookie ships to keep up aggro timers was exploitative it wouldn't change anything since dedicated ganking organizations would just keep a stack of T1-fitted Rifters or whatever to hand out for the same purpose. I mean, hell, we're already talking about a situation where T2 fitted Battlecruisers are disposable.
Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#109 - 2014-03-25 22:57:12 UTC
You had an hour to react and still died?

In this situation you could have taken note of the direction the mach was bumping you.
log in an alt or ask nicely someone you trust for a fast frigate and send him off in that direction.
Fleet him. Then warp to him when you are bumped.
An hour is plenty of time to sort out an escape.
And with 25Bil in a single haul, I imagine you can afford an alt in with an mwd frig.

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#110 - 2014-03-25 22:57:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
Tacomaco wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
A shuttle can hold 100s of those blueprints


This ^^

I don't have that much experience but I think a shuttle is impossible to attack if flown properly.

- as it exists the station it can warp out before the session timer expires. You're in warp with 1-2 sec to spare and you can't be locked on in this time. Also applies to stargates after you jumped to the destination and you're clocked. You can still warp-out while the session timer is active.

- not sure about this but I think it accelerates faster than a frigate to the max warp speed. This means it will get to the destination faster than any ship.

- smaller signature than a frigate, I think it's of light drone size signature. Hard to lock-on, hard to hit.




It's good to know (from the perspective of someone who pops shuttles all the time) that out there in the miasma of misinformation highseccers tell each other, there are actually some ideas that, if followed, are literally the worst possible thing to do.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#111 - 2014-03-25 23:10:28 UTC
I just put my shuttle into triage and run the 7 large armor reppers I have fitted untill the gankers go away....Roll

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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#112 - 2014-05-15 02:33:05 UTC
I just sent a share order but never tried this.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#113 - 2014-05-15 14:26:53 UTC
Lar Tadaruwa wrote:
I just sent a share order but never tried this.


Don't necro 7 week old threads.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

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Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#114 - 2014-05-15 14:40:17 UTC
Protip for future petitions, don't put your opinion in the petition, GMs don't care, and you look whiny.

Simply describe the situation as clearly as possible and then ask the question.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#115 - 2014-05-15 14:43:05 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Tacomaco wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
A shuttle can hold 100s of those blueprints


This ^^

I don't have that much experience but I think a shuttle is impossible to attack if flown properly.

- as it exists the station it can warp out before the session timer expires. You're in warp with 1-2 sec to spare and you can't be locked on in this time. Also applies to stargates after you jumped to the destination and you're clocked. You can still warp-out while the session timer is active.

- not sure about this but I think it accelerates faster than a frigate to the max warp speed. This means it will get to the destination faster than any ship.

- smaller signature than a frigate, I think it's of light drone size signature. Hard to lock-on, hard to hit.




It's good to know (from the perspective of someone who pops shuttles all the time) that out there in the miasma of misinformation highseccers tell each other, there are actually some ideas that, if followed, are literally the worst possible thing to do.

It's not really wrong, as in general, it's going to be hard to get a scan on a shuttle, and very hard to catch them too, with a VERY low likelihood of the effort being worth it.

I'd recommend an interceptor or dual tanked frigate if you can't do something stronger, and splitting the stuff your transporting into multiple runs just in case, but a shuttle isn't a BAD choice.

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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#116 - 2014-05-15 14:57:07 UTC
More info on the blessed representitive of HTFU who extracted the OP's tears can be found here.

F

Would you like to know more?
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#117 - 2014-05-15 18:35:41 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Lar Tadaruwa wrote:
I just sent a share order but never tried this.


Don't necro 7 week old threads.

This thread is like the walking dead. Just when you think it's down it gets up to bite!
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#118 - 2014-05-15 20:27:54 UTC
Working as intended. Once you undock, you are fair game. You can never be safe in space, you can only make it harder for those who which to introduce your pod to said space.

Undocking with assets worth billions of ISK in cargo paints a giant target on you. Plan accordingly.

EDIT: Also, posting in another necro thread.

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Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#119 - 2014-05-15 20:33:56 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
More info on the blessed representitive of HTFU who extracted the OP's tears can be found here.

F

I took the time to illustrate just how much I don't care.

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

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Lord Jasta
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#120 - 2014-05-17 08:39:22 UTC
Wait isn't it against the EULA to share a petition......