Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So....

There should be Level V missions that are completable in a Punisher?

You are flagged for PvP the instant you undock

But I am all for more frigate-only missions

More tithes for Omir

then do missions in HACs and t3s. Missions are a small part of the game and offer a particular kind of experience. If it doesn't appeal to you, then you should probably find some other part of the game that is more interesting. There's also a balance issue in expecting to make the same isk/hour in a dinky t1 cruiser as in a fully fit mission BS.

Yeah but more pvp is better, adding pvp missions for everyone in high sec, including groups would only add to the gameplay, increasing the difficulty of all missions would give people a reason to faction fit frigates, it would also remove officer mods from the game faster which would increase null sec income due to supply and demand.

Are you on crack?

I like this idea - it might give some players a clearer option to focus and perfect small ship skills, as opposed to drifting into a jumble of larger stuff.

Although I don't think the reward "span" should be I to IV, but maybe I-II 1/2 or something like that.

Also, the "difficulty slider" could have two axes - one to change the AI to be more PvP-like - a way to help PvE players transition to PvP, at least in terms of learning fits and getting a handle on some basic tactics, etc.

Let's just cut to the chase: Anarchy Online's mission selector interface.

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I have noticed that when some players say 'mission' they really mean 'security mission' and fail to acknowledge the existence of other mission types or their challenges.

I actually agree with the OP.

It takes longer to skill into a wolf than a BS, but the BS has the higher mission payout.

I could see missions being broken out by size and level.
So frigate 1-5, cruiser 1-5, BC 1-5, BS 1-5, capital 1-5 (low sec only obviously)

Frigate missions could have frig only accel gate, but the ships inside range from L1 (easy) to L5 (badaz). L5 you'd need friends or you'd need high skills, good tactics, T2 or faction fit. Scale pay accordingly.

I'm not sure i'd agree L5 firg should be the same as L5 BS. Maybe L5 firg mission somewhat equal to L1 or L2 BS.


As for PvP missions, also a fan of the idea. Say... 1 v 1 to 5 v 5 with size limitations. Form your fleet of 5 and accept a PvP mission, then wait for another fleet of 5 to accept the PvP mission. A pocket is created with an accel gate with limits on ship size. Inside the pocket play "capture the flag" with limited engagement flags between each member of the opposing fleets. If you are not in one of the fleets that accepted the mission, you can't get into the pocket to interfere. To avoid exploit, set payout equal to actual value of ships destroyed, and no bounty payouts or insurance payments. Maybe pay out based on how long each side held the button as a % of total ships destroyed. So, if your side held the button the entire time, you'd get 100% payout of value of total actual losses from both sides. If each side held the button 50% of the time, payout would be equal, but whichever side lost the most value of ships would still have a financial loss. Maybe add a collateral for accepting that also gets split based on time each side held the button to prevent people from accepting, then running into station when a better team accepts. Think of that as the "blinds" in poker.

I don't see the ability to have PvP missions actually "add" ISK to the game the way normal missions do, because I see that as too easily exploitable when one side of the PvP mission simply doesn't show up, or intentionally loses. PvP missions would have to be more like poker, which redistributes money from losers to winners than current missions that actually increase total money.