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Dev Blog: Tiptoe Through the Tooltips

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Shamus en Divalone
The Clandestine Forge
#301 - 2014-05-14 08:31:58 UTC
Quote:
If I hover over a station in the overview window it just tells me: "Station". you-dont-say.jpg. It would make indefinitely more sense to show the full station name in the tool-tip because that's what I want to know.
Same when hovering over player ships, I don't want to know what kind of ship or my standing towards the pilot, I want to know the full pilot's name (and corp/alliance if that would be possible).


This is really annoying requiring a click for info, also, hovering over POS arrays doesn't show online offline state and covers most of the screen with a tooltip when there are a few grouped together.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#302 - 2014-05-14 08:55:50 UTC
Lena Lazair wrote:

The fix for that is to use the awesome new ship class icons they added to ISIS in the overview/brackets.

EDIT: OMG, seeing that typed out I just realized it's the same as Archer's ISIS. I mean... that has no relevance on anything whatsoever, but still... sick reference bro, your references are out of control.


Lana... Lana... LANA!!!

Danger zone...

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Eurynome Mangeiri
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#303 - 2014-05-14 09:20:56 UTC
like many other, GIVE AN OPTION TO TURN THOSE TOOLTIPS OFF!


seriously, this breaks the game like never before, one of the worst thiing you ever did.

seriously, either give a "no tooltip" option or roll back the update, can't and won't play until done
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#304 - 2014-05-14 09:23:38 UTC
I'm not sure $15 a month entitles one to subject another to so much verbal abuse

Help, I can't download EVE

President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub

PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Blood Viper Johnson
Gallente Federation
#305 - 2014-05-14 09:29:01 UTC
probably that tooltip will be forever as and jump animation)
Deal with it Cool
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
Northern Coalition.
#306 - 2014-05-14 09:30:15 UTC
I like the preditive menus. Very clever and incredibly useful; eve has always been difficult to interract with because of it's menu design.

Can you turn off the tool tips? I don't need the ones for the neocon, and I don't want to see them for objects in space as it obscures my view.

Even just the ability to change the delay to a couple of seconds would be great, then people can still see your work if they want to.
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
Northern Coalition.
#307 - 2014-05-14 09:35:32 UTC
Lisa Gentilette wrote:

Just look at the neocom wallet button, it's so unnecessary giving me info that I already get when I click that wallet button.
What's the function of telling me what I have in my wallet before I open my wallet? Do I really need to know this or can it wait one more click?


You always got that; before it was just a lot smaller and unobtrusive.
Octoven
Stellar Production
#308 - 2014-05-14 09:40:01 UTC
When I think of predictive mouse movement I am reminded of a real life scenario. So basically the old way is the proper drivers who pull upto the turn off lane on a road to make a nice clean 90 degree turn into a parking lot or onto a road. Predictive mouse menu, yep as expected these are the ones who dont use turn off lanes, they get to as close to the turn off point as they deem needed, and the cut in a straight line to the destination, even if this results in driving a few feet into on coming traffic haha. I don't know...thats just the first thing I thought of when I saw that diagram.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#309 - 2014-05-14 10:15:28 UTC
I've found another piece of constructive feedback.

The fact that the new tooltip just tells me "battlecruiser" or whatever when I mouse over another player, where before it used to tell me their name and their corp/alliance affiliation is beyond frustrating.

I'm not an idiot. I know it's an effing battlecruiser because it says so on the overview!

Ruining existing useful tools for the sake of new players is a slap in the face to everyone else who plays the game.

Revert this immediately.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
beakerax
Pator Tech School
#310 - 2014-05-14 10:44:59 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
The fact that the new tooltip just tells me "battlecruiser" or whatever when I mouse over another player, where before it used to tell me their name and their corp/alliance affiliation is beyond frustrating.

I'm trying to imagine (trying not to imagine?) some UI dev looking at the old tooltips and thinking, "players don't need to know any of that ****, what we have here is a battlecruiser".

Please tell me this new behaviour is some sort of horrible accident.
Davader
Space Cleaners
The Gorgon Empire
#311 - 2014-05-14 10:45:59 UTC
If you add new shiny rainbow tips for noobies, there should be also added an option to TURN THEM OFF. Some checkbox in the game menu. Where can I turn these new tips off?
Rainbow Eyes
Sora no Otoshimano
#312 - 2014-05-14 10:46:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Rainbow Eyes
I HATE this Captain Obvious tolltipsEvilEvilEvil. Аs I can off these distracting tooltips from my clientQuestionAttentionAttention

This must have for noobs, not for 1 month + players or Pirate Uniscorns think about all players this (noobs)? They are noobs.

Death beams, Pirate UnicornsEvil

/me: went to shoot the monument 4-4
beakerax
Pator Tech School
#313 - 2014-05-14 10:55:41 UTC
Rainbow Eyes wrote:
/me: went to shoot the monument 4-4


I'm surprised you could find it.
Sarka Bathory
Perkone
Caldari State
#314 - 2014-05-14 10:56:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarka Bathory
Just a little feedback from a PVP corp/alliance with a quite a few members, Red vs. Blue, on this tooltip-madness:

It went from Oops to Evil in just a day.

Our chats are filled with frustration about the tooltips, somewhat intelligent fleetfights can not happen anymore - the screen is black, covered by the popup, one can basically only shoot what is closest. Snipers & and on-grid reinforcement ships are pretty obsolete now. Some fleet commanders don`t want to undock and fight anymore.

A lot of corpmates - speaking hundreds here - lost the fun entirely, statements about quitting EVE can be found like every minute.

For the love of God, and the cash of your paying players, please CCP, get rid of this ASAP !

We know you invested money to make this change, and your intentions were good, but sometimes things go south. Get over it, undo the patch, make EVE playable again!
Wotan1985
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#315 - 2014-05-14 10:56:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Wotan1985
CCP Delegate Zero wrote:
Hi,
We'll keep taking in all the feedback and use it in our ongoing design work. A major focus of this team is on improving new player experience by generally raising the level of the all-round player experience. We know this approach is going to require our close attention to feedback and significant iterative work.


Sorry guys at CCP, with such senseless features you are doing the next big step in make playing eve for veterans more painful then improve it. If this steps up, more and more vets will quit. And as every finance and marketing guy knows regular customers will rarely come back. If you want to have more new players then build up the game in a manner that everyone will be happy with it to be more newbie friendly and keep old players in the game.

Just my 2 cents.
R17a
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
#316 - 2014-05-14 10:57:55 UTC
CCP It's rly SUX update.. rly.
Pls add an option to TURN THEM f@%!№g OFF!!!
dijy ru
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#317 - 2014-05-14 11:23:02 UTC
Return the option to turn their brains
Bpedutejib
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#318 - 2014-05-14 11:25:15 UTC

I can no longer play this game. This is not possible. Remove the tips, this is not improving, it's a bug
gascanu
Bearing Srl.
#319 - 2014-05-14 11:27:36 UTC  |  Edited by: gascanu
beakerax wrote:
Rainbow Eyes wrote:
/me: went to shoot the monument 4-4


I'm surprised you could find it.


hahahaha, just made my day; thank you good woman!
Woeste Veegmachine
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#320 - 2014-05-14 11:33:25 UTC
I run Eve on a potato. The tooltips are actually dropping my framerate. They're also a pain in the rear when doing relic/data sites. Would -really- like an option to disable them.