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Thinking about exploring for magnetometric and radar sites
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Shadow Lord77
Shadow Industries I
#1 - 2011-12-03 09:26:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Shadow Lord77
I recently got Cov-Ops IV and was planning on scanning about low-sec/null for some of those sites, when I read that most of hacking or archeology sites have a lot of NPCs to face, so now it seems that it'd be rare to solo one. Is that true?
grazer gin
Raving Rednecks
#2 - 2011-12-03 09:47:05 UTC
You can strike rich in a vexor or T1 cruiser/frig in HSEC had myself 2 nice Dread Gurista Invulns drop from a hsec 3/10 i think it was.

You can get even better drops from low sec if the drop gods are happy that day that is and if you are lucky and get a expedition and follow that to its end you could make even more cash if your willing to head to nullsec or you could get nothing.

Whatever happens a covert ops tengu is a good ship for plexing The probing ability with decent dps and the ability to warp through bubbles in null (i have mine cloaky diction nulli fitted) but if you find a very good plex you will need to either bring friends or find somewhere to swap your tank out.

Also the other T3s aka a loki/proteus are semi decent for the cloaky scanning aswell they the dps is somewhat lackluster vs a tengu.

Finally there are a pair of 6% scanning strength and deviation implants i suggest you buy they go for about 30m for the pair and a extra 6% is pretty helpful i also suggest you invest in aT2 probe launcher and buy some sisters probe launcher (as they are the same as T2 now they are cheap just buy a few and wait for ccp to buff them wont be more then 10 years promise) and sisters core probes

And get covert ops to L5 its a two week skill with the added benefit of extra bomb damage when your in nullsec it makes those bombing runs even more epic
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2011-12-03 11:22:27 UTC
As far as I know, all lowsec Radars, and almost all lowsec Mags (archeology) sites have rats in them, so actually running the site in a Covops would be rather hard.
Powie XIII
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-12-03 13:55:01 UTC
Doing missions is way better.

Sincerely,

An Explorer.

“They see me trollin', they hatin'”
5nipe
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-12-03 14:06:54 UTC
St Mio wrote:
As far as I know, all lowsec Radars, and almost all lowsec Mags (archeology) sites have rats in them, so actually running the site in a Covops would be rather hard.


It is not 100% correct.

Low sec radar "Regional Guristas Mainframe", for example, has 4-5 cans and rarely has any rats at all. Typically it drops 10-15 mils, sometimes even more.

Therefore, I entirely agree that focusing only on sites where rats not presented and using covops for running this sites is not good strategy.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2011-12-03 15:05:15 UTC
5nipe wrote:
St Mio wrote:
As far as I know, all lowsec Radars, and almost all lowsec Mags (archeology) sites have rats in them, so actually running the site in a Covops would be rather hard.


It is not 100% correct.

Low sec radar "Regional Guristas Mainframe", for example, has 4-5 cans and rarely has any rats at all. Typically it drops 10-15 mils, sometimes even more.

Therefore, I entirely agree that focusing only on sites where rats not presented and using covops for running this sites is not good strategy.


Fair enough :D I find that the Blood & Sansha Regional Mainframes tend to usually have rats
Flakey Foont
#7 - 2011-12-03 15:38:33 UTC
Most low sec radar and mags have rats equal to a level 3 or sometimes level 4 mission in high sec. Very rarely does one with no guards pop.

On the other hand, the rewards are much greater than high sec.
Tierius Fro
Coronado's Cross
#8 - 2011-12-03 15:51:20 UTC
When I first started to explore low sec I would find sites in my Cov Ops and then switch ships to work the sites. (That was back in the day when we had signal specific probes.) I still do that in my wormhole, and when I lived 0.0.

You can fly either a Cruiser or BC, get your exploration skills to at least level IV and if needed use Sister's for the bonus. In low sec a Cruiser with good skills, or for sure a BC, can handle anything you will find in a Mag or Radar site. (There are some drug sites that are radar and are loaded with battleships.)

Fro

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OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
#9 - 2011-12-03 16:26:58 UTC
If you have a relatively low-traffic low-sec area, I have found it works well to roll through 4-5 systems, scan down everything, then roll back through with an Ishtar or some such. You can usually run all the sites and still tank everything in an Ishtar even with Salvager/Analyzer/Codebreaker fitted.
Havegun Willtravel
Mobile Alcohol Processing Units
#10 - 2011-12-06 17:07:37 UTC
It's been a while since I ninja'ed a null mag or radar. As i recall you need a bs or T3 minimum to clear out the rats and ideally speaking a partner in a dedicated hacking/archeology/salvage boat to pop the cans.

Low sec however is very different. There are a great many sites i can solo in my Helios with it's single drone. It can be quite stressful but it does work. A T3 scan ship is by far your best bet but can be a bit pricey.

Ishkur makes a great low sec runner. Stay at 40 and just let the drones chew the rats down. Sentinal is almost as good.

Overall my 2 favorite low sec sites runners are the Arazu and Pilgrim. At a fraction of the cost of a T3 they do a great job and warping cloaked in low sec takes alot of the stress away. Saves you alot of time from having to reship and maybe loose a site to a competitor.

IMO the hardest part of running in low sec is finding a region that's not farmed. Once you get a nice area you can call your own your in business.
RC Denton
Shazaam Industries
#11 - 2011-12-06 20:47:48 UTC
You're not going to be able to do exploration sites with a cov ops frig. You'll need a partner, or switch out ships. One ship that can do them in all areas (high, low, null) is a cov ops tengu, but they're rather expensive.

For high sec a drake works well as both a scanning, and site running ship. You can put grav caps on it to increase the scan str to make scanning easier.

Low sec you might be able to get away with a recon cruiser, but I've never done it. A pilgrim could probably do quite well, and most people will leave a pilgrim or curse alone Pirate
Shepherd Finch
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-12-07 00:20:59 UTC
RC Denton wrote:
For high sec a drake works well as both a scanning, and site running ship. You can put grav caps on it to increase the scan str to make scanning easier.


Overkill for the handful of rats you're going to see. Slap an AB and a small buffer tank on a T1 scanning frigate and you can both scan & clear out any high-sec RADAR site with ease.

As for low-sec RADAR/MAG, I've heard of people having luck with destroyers, but you'd have better luck with at least a Cruiser, if not a BC. MWDs are essential since some lowsec sites spawn cans 100km apart.
Mnemosyne Gloob
#13 - 2011-12-07 06:36:08 UTC
grazer gin wrote:
(as they are the same as T2 now they are cheap just buy a few and wait for ccp to buff them wont be more then 10 years promise) and sisters core probes


Yes T2 and Sisters launchers have the same probe strength bonus, but the T2 one has higher fitting requirements. It's like that for all the faction items (or most of) compared to T2 - so no need to 'buff' anything there.

As for the OP - i did radars and mags in lowsec in a Vexor when i still had crappy skills. An Arbitrator would work as well.
luvmehard
Shakor Freight and Mining Service
#14 - 2011-12-07 08:32:10 UTC
Lowsec radar sites are easily doable in a T1 cruiser. I use this for sansha/blood rats:

[Arbitrator, LowSec Radar]
Energized Reflective Membrane II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Codebreaker I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Core Probe Launcher I, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I
Improved Cloaking Device II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

Rarely fire the guns, speedtanking wit cap stable mwd, don't really know why I have those ECM drones in there tbh and does the cloak+mwd trick nicely. Drone damage around 230DPS or so.

.derp.