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Nereus over powered?

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FDIC Agent
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-05-13 18:28:01 UTC
Post from an alt for obvious reasons below.

Over the past week my friends and I have been picked on by these haulers. Unless it was a programming mistake the haulers are not haulers. Something is not stirring the Kool-Aid about them. After losing a few interceptors we started losing attack frigates. Despite them being tech two focused damage, we are still losing to this Nereus ship.

Is there an exploit going on? Why is this hauler getting the best of us?
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2014-05-13 18:35:17 UTC
FDIC Agent wrote:
Post from an alt for obvious reasons below.

Over the past week my friends and I have been picked on by these haulers. Unless it was a programming mistake the haulers are not haulers. Something is not stirring the Kool-Aid about them. After losing a few interceptors we started losing attack frigates. Despite them being tech two focused damage, we are still losing to this Nereus ship.

Is there an exploit going on? Why is this hauler getting the best of us?

huge charge hold filled with cap charges and the mids with cap boosters.

I dont know about the rest but it sure is a funny thing.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2014-05-13 18:35:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
You're doing it wrong?

Is the Nereus the new Battle Badger?

Have you tried scanning it?

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
#4 - 2014-05-13 18:39:55 UTC
Nereus has a huge cargo bay, lots of slots, and sufficient offensive capabilities to take down frigates or unprepared bigger ships. Remember that ships never have one "set" role. The Nereus happens to be one of the few industrials capable of defending itself.

This is probably similar to what your Nereus friend is flying:

Quote:
[Nereus, Murderer]

Damage Control II
Corpii C-Type Small Armor Repairer
Corpii C-Type Small Armor Repairer
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

10MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800

Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I


Hobgoblin II x3
Warrior II x3


If he has good skills, he will be able to take on a handful of frigates and win. If he has external help in the form of off-grid boosts, or a buddy standing by with a remote rep ship, he can take on even more. What can't he take on? A cruiser or two, especially if they have good skills. A battlecruiser. A couple assault frigates. Anything that kites. Anything that uses sheer alpha to get through his tank (a few Thrashers for example).

When someone is using a gimmicky tactic, don't run right at them. Think about what they're doing, what counters them, and make a plan. Set a trap. Outsmart them.

Also, moved to Ships & Modules to preempt the incoming relentless GD trolling.

ISD LackOfFaith

Captain

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums.

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2014-05-13 18:40:33 UTC
This was CCP answer to the numerous Q-Ship threads.


Too bad more people don't use them this way.. but then again.. ::effort::

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

CompleteFailure
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-05-13 18:44:41 UTC
Marlona Sky has a series of of videos posted on YouTube that show how boss the Nerius is Smile
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#7 - 2014-05-13 18:55:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Confirming that Marlona like to embarrass people with her haulers.

What are we calling a combat fit Nereus, apart from hilarious?

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#8 - 2014-05-13 19:09:36 UTC
For years people asked in these forums "Give us Q ships!"

And CCP delivered.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
#9 - 2014-05-13 19:11:05 UTC
FDIC Agent wrote:
Post from an alt for obvious reasons below.

Over the past week my friends and I have been picked on by these haulers. Unless it was a programming mistake the haulers are not haulers. Something is not stirring the Kool-Aid about them. After losing a few interceptors we started losing attack frigates. Despite them being tech two focused damage, we are still losing to this Nereus ship.

Is there an exploit going on? Why is this hauler getting the best of us?


It's still a hauler, it does however have 5 mids and 5 lows, a very decent allowance of powergrid for its size and a ton of CPU.
In other words, don't fight it with frigates like you would any other hauler, that thing is a lot tougher than that.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#10 - 2014-05-13 19:13:37 UTC
FDIC Agent wrote:
Is there an exploit going on? Why is this hauler getting the best of us?

CCP just listened to players. Or maybe I should say CCP Rise llistened to players Lol?

Remove standings and insurance.

FDIC Agent
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-05-13 19:27:41 UTC
CompleteFailure wrote:
Marlona Sky has a series of of videos posted on YouTube that show how boss the Nerius is Smile

Next question from my friends. Do other players need permission to show someone in their combat videos? That Paradox one she didn't ask him about publishing it as it shows him in a bad way. Would this be considered harassment because now others might go out of their way to attack him and my other friends with haulers?
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#12 - 2014-05-13 19:34:18 UTC
FDIC Agent wrote:
Next question from my friends. Do other players need permission to show someone in their combat videos? That Paradox one she didn't ask him about publishing it as it shows him in a bad way. Would this be considered harassment because now others might go out of their way to attack him and my other friends with haulers?


Blink

Blink, blink, blink.

I'm not even sure if you're serious or not.

"I considered a career in griefing, but then realized that I would never achieve the level of tear generation that CCP manages to do each and every expansion."

Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#13 - 2014-05-13 19:44:59 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
For years people asked in these forums "Give us Q ships!"

And CCP delivered.



They're hardly Q ships if they're obvious.
ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
#14 - 2014-05-13 19:57:36 UTC
FDIC Agent wrote:
CompleteFailure wrote:
Marlona Sky has a series of of videos posted on YouTube that show how boss the Nerius is Smile

Next question from my friends. Do other players need permission to show someone in their combat videos? That Paradox one she didn't ask him about publishing it as it shows him in a bad way. Would this be considered harassment because now others might go out of their way to attack him and my other friends with haulers?

With regards to intellectual property, they have every right to post video of Eve gameplay, though from what I understand, CCP retains IP rights. This is even addressed in this policy doc: http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/monetization-of-videos-policy/

From a harassment perspective, if you believe there is harassment with malicious intent going on beyond the general hostilities of Eve, please file a support ticket so a GM can look at it. Keep in mind that publicity is not inherently harassment, even if garners negative attention to some.

ISD LackOfFaith

Captain

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums.

Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-05-13 20:24:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Il Feytid
Wasn't me. Not really undocked being too busy with other stuff the last few weeks.

One thing to consider is the hauler's feelings. We are just trying to make our way when suddenly someone in a frigate comes right at us. I mean what is up with that? Then they proceed to extort us of round after round of antimatter. By the time we escape with our defend mail we arrive at our destination with less ammo and cap boosters to put in the market.

So please, think about our feelings for a change. Oops
Jill Chastot
Black Water Oasis
#16 - 2014-05-13 20:51:15 UTC
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
Nereus has a huge cargo bay, lots of slots, and sufficient offensive capabilities to take down frigates or unprepared bigger ships. Remember that ships never have one "set" role. The Nereus happens to be one of the few industrials capable of defending itself.

This is probably similar to what your Nereus friend is flying:

Quote:
[Nereus, Murderer]

Damage Control II
Corpii C-Type Small Armor Repairer
Corpii C-Type Small Armor Repairer
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

10MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800

Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I


Hobgoblin II x3
Warrior II x3


If he has good skills, he will be able to take on a handful of frigates and win. If he has external help in the form of off-grid boosts, or a buddy standing by with a remote rep ship, he can take on even more. What can't he take on? A cruiser or two, especially if they have good skills. A battlecruiser. A couple assault frigates. Anything that kites. Anything that uses sheer alpha to get through his tank (a few Thrashers for example).

When someone is using a gimmicky tactic, don't run right at them. Think about what they're doing, what counters them, and make a plan. Set a trap. Outsmart them.

Also, moved to Ships & Modules to preempt the incoming relentless GD trolling.



Also there was a sickening fit that a corpie flew, i was in a hurricane and couldn't break his *passive* tank!

sure his DPS was laughable and i was still in 80% shields of an armor tanked ship but he wasn't dying.

I don't have the actual fit handy but i think the theory was much like ye olde passive drake.
SPR's, Extenders, Purgers, Point. That kinda stuff.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-05-13 20:57:16 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
For years people asked in these forums "Give us Q ships!"

And CCP delivered.



They're hardly Q ships if they're obvious.

well, if we're going by the OP's post.... I think you're wrong in that statement

Lol

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Titan Andronicus
Rookie Mission Tax Haven
#18 - 2014-05-13 21:04:28 UTC
FDIC Agent wrote:
Post from an alt for obvious reasons below.

Over the past week my friends and I have been picked on by these haulers. Unless it was a programming mistake the haulers are not haulers. Something is not stirring the Kool-Aid about them. After losing a few interceptors we started losing attack frigates. Despite them being tech two focused damage, we are still losing to this Nereus ship.

Is there an exploit going on? Why is this hauler getting the best of us?


Intelligence, and it's application.
Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
#19 - 2014-05-13 21:31:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Meiyang Lee
Jill Chastot wrote:


Also there was a sickening fit that a corpie flew, i was in a hurricane and couldn't break his *passive* tank!

sure his DPS was laughable and i was still in 80% shields of an armor tanked ship but he wasn't dying.

I don't have the actual fit handy but i think the theory was much like ye olde passive drake.
SPR's, Extenders, Purgers, Point. That kinda stuff.


Just fitting it for pure passive tank you can get a Nereus up to 500-600 DPS passive tank, with 41k EHP!
That's rather impressive for what's usually just a cardboard tube to hold some cargo in. Shocked
Insane, sure you're just a flying bucket of shield mods with a signature the size of a moon, but damn, that's a lot of tank for an industrial.
Onictus
Capital Fusion.
Pandemic Horde
#20 - 2014-05-13 23:24:20 UTC
Overpowered hauler......

OMGLOL
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