EVE General Discussion

Hello everyone,

recently an old WoW buddy told me that EVE was on sale on Steam; so both of us joined and raved over the goodie package. As it turned out, it was a horrible mistake to get the starter pack by Steam because of the technical limitations of Steam accounts, but both of us do like the game itself.

So we started learning skills with remapped attributes and added cerebral boosters, did the tutorials and even the Epic Arc. The "end boss" Dagan was hard, but fun... in the end; he made me upgrade my ship from destroyer to cruiser and think about my ship fittings to match his self healing ability. Learning mechanics, recalling slot types, damage types, you name it. Then we headed over to mission running to get some basic ISK income and boost some reputation. Because of the very low rewards of level 1 missions, I wanted to move quickly over to level 2 missions. There the first bump happened: a cruiser with Mark4 equipment gets beaten easily in lvl2 security missions if you don't have proper skills and fine-tuned ship fittings. So I learned about armor tanking and stuff, basic combat mechanics for playing with drones (btw, I'm flying a Vexor at the moment) and so on. I think most of you might have started the same way.

But from this point on I'm pretty clueless. Until I get all the appropriate skills for real PvPing and exploring 0,0 secs, how could I enrich the ingame experience besides running missions (for ISK, LP and rep)?

Mining is boring and doing market buy/sell sounds too much like RL. And hauling? Sorry, driving trucks has never sounded to be a fun job to me. My goal is not maximizing my ISK/hour income stream in general, but to fly a decent ship (with the right skills and fittings) to go deeper into space. So I asked around about taking part in Incursion fleets, because it looked like a good alternative for learning fleet combat basics, PVP basics, plus ISK and rep. But people told me that I should have at least a T2 BC before considering to apply for incursions. So, what else can rookies do except mission running?

By the way, this isn't a troll post. I googled hours for specific EVE related topics, but never found something that hint out content which newbies might have forgot about.

Cho

1. Train "Propulsion Jamming" to Level 1.
2. You're done. You have all the requisite core skills for PvP (Frigate, Guns, Point). Support skills (e.g. Rapid Firing), while helpful, are not a pre-requisite for "PvP".

AT MOST (all 5s) a player can dump about 10.75 million SP into frigates ... other ships will be a bit higher (because larger things generally require more SP overall), but since you can only train a single skill to 5 ... and only a specific subset of skills will apply to flying a particular ship, more SP is not necessarily an indicator of a better pilot at any given activity.

With about 5-6 weeks of training time, you can get to L4s across the board in frigates (give or take, I might be missing a skill or two). With having only "invested" 1.75 million SP into flying them, you will be 80-90% as good as the guy who's maxxed everything out. Furthermore, very few pilots actually max out skills, because they can get better return elsewhere -- for example, "Gunnery" gives you 2% per level better tracking (not bad). From L4 to L5 it will take you about 2 weeks. In that same amount of time, you can train up "Motion Prediction" to L4 -- which gives you 4% per level!



Don't let your lack of time playing the game, or perceived lack of skills keep you from doing what you want to do.

This thread reminds me of the New Player Experience keynote so much. You're welcomed into a universe based on NPC objectives which give you rewards, and not at all introduced into the true sandbox where you're the one creating content. This will all be reworked for the better soon™.

My best advice would be to have a look here, at this profession chart, and also to watch a few videos on EVE. Decide what looks the coolest/most fun to you, join a group of players doing just that, and have all the fun. Pro-tip, join a well known and/or bigger corp/alliance and not some pubbie corp that have a CEO that's awol, and an average of 3 members online.

If you're a member of SA, join goons. If you're a member of Reddit, join TEST/Brave Newbies, or any of the other big names.

What else can they do...

Ninja salvaging.
Probing and annoying mission runners in lvl4s,
while learning how to speedtank heavy crossfire.
And or stealing mission loot from other noobs.
Suicide ganking.
Scamming.
Combat.
PlayerCorpTheft.
Awoxing other noobs of your age in PlayerCorps.

Just what I remember spontanously. :)

**** waiting til you're bored

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I second this.

Ninja salvaging/looting has very low sp requirements, teaches you all kinds of things, and is fun to do with a friend.

You'll learn to:
- fix your overview
- use the directional scanner and probes
- use bookmarks
- use the star map to find places of interest
- negotiate potentially dangerous situations
- play the game with intelligence and creativity

...and all from the relative comfort and safety of high security space. Plus, it makes very good money for the sp investment. And you can graduate to mission flipping, if you like--or don't, if you don't.

One finds all kinds of crazy stuff just sitting in deep space, too. Full flights of faction drones, unlooted war targets, abandoned mtus still full of loot, and more.

Find a good, solid newbro corporation in the field that interests you.

Profit. :D