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Bastion Lemmont
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#161 - 2014-05-13 06:30:46 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Am I seeing this right?

Did Industrialists just trounce content creators and mission whores? Big smile



You did notice that the bounty goals and ISK destroyed goals were set in trillions while the other two were billions I assume ?


How does that even matter? If it was 25bil it would have been done in a day. But please, let the anti miner rage flow on. I'll just be over here making money from nullsec mining and production.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#162 - 2014-05-13 06:31:51 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Am I seeing this right?

Did Industrialists just trounce content creators and mission whores? Big smile



You did notice that the bounty goals and ISK destroyed goals were set in trillions while the other two were billions I assume ?

Apples and pebbles.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#163 - 2014-05-13 06:41:15 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Bastion Lemmont wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Am I seeing this right?

Did Industrialists just trounce content creators and mission whores? Big smile



You did notice that the bounty goals and ISK destroyed goals were set in trillions while the other two were billions I assume ?


How does that even matter? If it was 25bil it would have been done in a day. But please, let the anti miner rage flow on. I'll just be over here making money from nullsec mining and production.

I don't see any anti-miner rage. All I see is miners who think that the fact that they reached their goal and that PVP didn't means that there are more miners. What it really most likely means is that miners are mining at a slightly higher rate than expected (the expected value probably being a server-wide average over the past year or so), whereas PVP is currently happening at a lower rate than expected (the expected value again being a server-wide average).

In other words, there's roughly as much mining as average, which is to be expected, and there's somewhat less PVP than average, also to be expected as there are active and quiet periods.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Dave Stark
#164 - 2014-05-13 07:19:42 UTC
or alternatively, they were just random arbitrary numbers and reaching/not reaching goals has nothing to do with activity!
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#165 - 2014-05-13 07:29:43 UTC
They obviously weren't random or arbitrary otherwise some of them would have hit the goal extremely early and others would have come nowhere close.
There were specific criteria for picking those numbers, we just don't know what they were.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Solecist Project
#166 - 2014-05-13 07:34:22 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
They obviously weren't random or arbitrary otherwise some of them would have hit the goal extremely early and others would have come nowhere close.
There were specific criteria for picking those numbers, we just don't know what they were.

Please don't hit Dave with common sense. :)
You might hurt him! :O

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Michael Ruckert
Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando
#167 - 2014-05-13 07:48:08 UTC
AFK miners meet goal. CODE FAIL.

"No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#168 - 2014-05-13 07:52:47 UTC
Bastion Lemmont wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Am I seeing this right?

Did Industrialists just trounce content creators and mission whores? Big smile



You did notice that the bounty goals and ISK destroyed goals were set in trillions while the other two were billions I assume ?


How does that even matter? If it was 25bil it would have been done in a day. But please, let the anti miner rage flow on. I'll just be over here making money from nullsec mining and production.


The problem is that I earned 500m bounties over the last 3 days, and yanked 1.4b of loot. So the exercise picks up 100% of mining output, but is actually all about an inefficient attribute of being a pve combat pilot and represents less than 30% of my economic output, even if yes, most of my time was spent shooting rats, and I only spent a couple of hours in minprofs.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#169 - 2014-05-13 07:58:49 UTC
We have brought much shame upon our pvpeens.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Dave Stark
#170 - 2014-05-13 08:01:47 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
They obviously weren't random or arbitrary otherwise some of them would have hit the goal extremely early and others would have come nowhere close.
There were specific criteria for picking those numbers, we just don't know what they were.


you mean, like they have been?
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#171 - 2014-05-13 08:08:18 UTC
Tauranon wrote:
The problem is that I earned 500m bounties over the last 3 days, and yanked 1.4b of loot. So the exercise picks up 100% of mining output, but is actually all about an inefficient attribute of being a pve combat pilot and represents less than 30% of my economic output, even if yes, most of my time was spent shooting rats, and I only spent a couple of hours in minprofs.
The goal were most likely based on actual activity in the areas measured. Adding to that the isk earned from non-bounties like LP or loot is not only probably prohibitively difficult to track, but also about as fair as counting the volume of processed minerals on top of the raw ore.

The goal was intended to focus on the act of shooting red crosses itself, much like the mining one was focused on munching rocks.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#172 - 2014-05-13 08:11:45 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
They obviously weren't random or arbitrary otherwise some of them would have hit the goal extremely early and others would have come nowhere close.
There were specific criteria for picking those numbers, we just don't know what they were.


you mean, like they have been?

How far along were bounties and isk destroyed when mining hit goal?
Dave Stark
#173 - 2014-05-13 08:13:49 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
They obviously weren't random or arbitrary otherwise some of them would have hit the goal extremely early and others would have come nowhere close.
There were specific criteria for picking those numbers, we just don't know what they were.


you mean, like they have been?

How far along were bounties and isk destroyed when mining hit goal?


if memory serves, around 80% of the first target. not entirely sure, though.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#174 - 2014-05-13 08:18:42 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
They obviously weren't random or arbitrary otherwise some of them would have hit the goal extremely early and others would have come nowhere close.
There were specific criteria for picking those numbers, we just don't know what they were.


you mean, like they have been?

Do you understand what "extremely early" and "nowhere close" means?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Dave Stark
#175 - 2014-05-13 08:20:42 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
They obviously weren't random or arbitrary otherwise some of them would have hit the goal extremely early and others would have come nowhere close.
There were specific criteria for picking those numbers, we just don't know what they were.


you mean, like they have been?

Do you understand what "extremely early" and "nowhere close" means?


yes.
Solecist Project
#176 - 2014-05-13 08:21:07 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
They obviously weren't random or arbitrary otherwise some of them would have hit the goal extremely early and others would have come nowhere close.
There were specific criteria for picking those numbers, we just don't know what they were.


you mean, like they have been?

Do you understand what "extremely early" and "nowhere close" means?

He might have heard that a lot in his life...

*giggles* xD

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Velicitia
XS Tech
#177 - 2014-05-13 09:26:51 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Am I seeing this right?

Did Industrialists just trounce content creators and mission whores? Big smile



You did notice that the bounty goals and ISK destroyed goals were set in trillions while the other two were billions I assume ?



Bounties, ISK Destroyed == ISK Value
Indy Jobs == Number of Jobs
Ore Mined == VOLUME of ore.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Victor Dathar
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#178 - 2014-05-13 11:48:36 UTC
We have failed and must commit seppuku immediately.

^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7

@grr_goons : Wisdom, Insight, GBS Posts
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#179 - 2014-05-13 11:52:25 UTC
Bastion Lemmont wrote:
But please, let the anti miner rage flow on.

I think you have things backwards in this thread. Even in the post you quoted, it contained a quote that had a dig at non-miners.

It's all ridiculous, no matter which side of the fence you are on.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#180 - 2014-05-13 11:57:24 UTC
All the non-industrialists can thank the industrialists for their 4 shiny new Geckos. Blink