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Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2014-05-13 04:30:49 UTC
Mali Talvanen wrote:
You miss my point it seems. I do not like pvp aspects of the game. Claiming wh means you have to defend it afterwards.


This is what EvE is all about. Holding your piece of the pie, in a sense. This applies to everything, not just PvP.

Also, EvE isn't on any private local servers for good reason. Infact, CCP prides themselves that there is only a single (non-chinese) server.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Mali Talvanen
#82 - 2014-05-13 04:51:25 UTC
Thanks for reminder. So there are 3 servers already TQ. Serenity and SISI. I forgot about Serenity. Well... At least there is hope then, where there are 3, there is always room for more. Time will tell...
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2014-05-13 05:05:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugia3
Mali Talvanen wrote:
Thanks for reminder. So there are 3 servers already TQ. Serenity and SISI. I forgot about Serenity. Well... At least there is hope then, where there are 3, there is always room for more. Time will tell...


No, there is not room for more.

And SiSi is the test server. For testing things.

Serenity is only it's own server due to Chinese government laws and regulations.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#84 - 2014-05-13 05:21:54 UTC
Mali Talvanen wrote:
Thanks for reminder. So there are 3 servers already TQ. Serenity and SISI. I forgot about Serenity. Well... At least there is hope then, where there are 3, there is always room for more. Time will tell...



TRANQUILITY
SERENITY
BUCKINGHAM
SINGULARITY
DUALITY
ADAM
CHAOS
CHINAJOY
ENTROPY
KALI
MULTIPLICITY
TRANSAM
UNICORN
VERTIGO

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Mali Talvanen
#85 - 2014-05-13 05:41:22 UTC
Wow, Webvan. Never heard about those ones. And thank you, your posts are really informative, learning a lot from them:-)
Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#86 - 2014-05-13 07:22:32 UTC
Space Engineers might be a good game for you. Space, Private, Building and Steam Community for showing things off.
Mali Talvanen
#87 - 2014-05-13 08:46:32 UTC
Karen Avioras wrote:
Space Engineers might be a good game for you. Space, Private, Building and Steam Community for showing things off.

Just posted 2 posts above. I have seen that game, not very impressed with it. I don't like how things look there, don't like player created stuff, not interested in showing things off to anyone.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#88 - 2014-05-13 09:32:28 UTC
Well there are a number of games to play, but EVE is pretty unique, especially with the some ~15 years of development into it, including some years of conception and development before going live. As for those servers, most of them are development servers. They are probably scaled down a lot, and run for certain departments to check their code builds. Like they have one just for testing the UI. Then a broader private beta test server etc. You can check server status at eve-offline.net

About the only alt spacy games on PC I'm playing is Space Empires V and X3. Oh and a little Naev once in a while. I do miss the days of SWG (pre-NGE) and Earth and Beyond, good internet space ship games no longer around. I don't have a favorable view of anything in development for the future, too much hype, other than for Fallout 4 but not a space game. I'd say just adapt, maybe try rolling and alt and join faction warfare if you haven't yet, even if just mostly mission running or something.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Velicitia
XS Tech
#89 - 2014-05-13 09:42:25 UTC
Webvan wrote:
good internet space ship games no longer around


TQ is showing as online -- so there is still at least one good internet spaceship game. EnB was OK too -- although I never got a chance to play it beyond the trial.


As to the OP -- still sounds like EVE isn't the game for you. Rather than try playing something that's pretty obviously the opposite of what you want to play (and hating it), maybe you should find something more to your liking and enjoy it.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Mali Talvanen
#90 - 2014-05-13 10:01:09 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Well there are a number of games to play, but EVE is pretty unique, especially with the some ~15 years of development into it, including some years of conception and development before going live. As for those servers, most of them are development servers. They are probably scaled down a lot, and run for certain departments to check their code builds. Like they have one just for testing the UI. Then a broader private beta test server etc. You can check server status at eve-offline.net

About the only alt spacy games on PC I'm playing is Space Empires V and X3. Oh and a little Naev once in a while. I do miss the days of SWG (pre-NGE) and Earth and Beyond, good internet space ship games no longer around. I don't have a favorable view of anything in development for the future, too much hype, other than for Fallout 4 but not a space game. I'd say just adapt, maybe try rolling and alt and join faction warfare if you haven't yet, even if just mostly mission running or something.


Was SWG that game with an interesting economy system? In all searches I put in everyone mentioned eve and some other Star game which I missed. Was closed already. Ty I will check other games you mentioned, but so far from what I have seen Eve seems the best regarding economy system.
I am actually not space games person. I like medieval environment, but Eve world is just so beautiful, same as the ships. Never knew space games can look like that.
Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#91 - 2014-05-13 10:06:51 UTC
Mali Talvanen wrote:
Karen Avioras wrote:
Space Engineers might be a good game for you. Space, Private, Building and Steam Community for showing things off.

Just posted 2 posts above. I have seen that game, not very impressed with it. I don't like how things look there, don't like player created stuff, not interested in showing things off to anyone.


Whatabout space 4x games? Star made? Sins of a Solar empire?
Mythrandier
Solace Corp
#92 - 2014-05-13 10:24:13 UTC

Mali Talvanen wrote:
Thanks for the answer.
Well, the reason is as all the other games, to choose what you play and with whom you play. I only like economy part of eve, so private server could have been a solution.



Mali Talvanen wrote:

You miss my point it seems. I do not like pvp aspects of the game.


You do realise that the economy in EvE is so vibrant because it IS PvP, right?

When you mine you compete against other miners, when you manufacture you compete against other industrialist and when you take your product to market you are engaging in market PvP.

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -  D. Adams.
Mali Talvanen
#93 - 2014-05-13 10:31:10 UTC
Mythrandier wrote:


You do realise that the economy in EvE is so vibrant because it IS PvP, right?

When you mine you compete against other miners, when you manufacture you compete against other industrialist and when you take your product to market you are engaging in market PvP.


And what it has to do with combat PVP? If you are competing with someone in the market it is not the same as taking the gun and killing that person. Same as in rl btw. But what are we are arguing about here? It starts going in circles, people saying same things over and over that has nothing to do with the original question.
Drak Morgan
Society of the Prevention of Cruelty to Drones
#94 - 2014-05-13 10:31:28 UTC
I still play Spaced invaders, otherwise EVE is as Space as I go right now.
Mali Talvanen
#95 - 2014-05-13 10:33:07 UTC
Karen Avioras wrote:
Mali Talvanen wrote:
Karen Avioras wrote:
Space Engineers might be a good game for you. Space, Private, Building and Steam Community for showing things off.

Just posted 2 posts above. I have seen that game, not very impressed with it. I don't like how things look there, don't like player created stuff, not interested in showing things off to anyone.


Whatabout space 4x games? Star made? Sins of a Solar empire?


Will look into those ty
Mythrandier
Solace Corp
#96 - 2014-05-13 10:34:43 UTC
Mali Talvanen wrote:
Mythrandier wrote:


You do realise that the economy in EvE is so vibrant because it IS PvP, right?

When you mine you compete against other miners, when you manufacture you compete against other industrialist and when you take your product to market you are engaging in market PvP.


And what it has to do with combat PVP? If you are competing with someone in the market it is not the same as taking the gun and killing that person. Same as in rl btw. But what are we are arguing about here? It starts going in circles, people saying same things over and over that has nothing to do with the original question.



You didnt mention "combat PvP". You simply stated you didnt like "the pvp aspects" of the game.

EvE is all PvP, almost everything you do in game (and some would argue on the forums) is PvP. The sooner you grasp this point the clearer your understanding of the game will be.

If you balk at the idea of any kind of competition then as has been stated above, EvE online, a PvP based game, is simply not the place for you

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -  D. Adams.
Mali Talvanen
#97 - 2014-05-13 10:38:59 UTC
Mythrandier wrote:
Mali Talvanen wrote:
Mythrandier wrote:


You do realise that the economy in EvE is so vibrant because it IS PvP, right?

When you mine you compete against other miners, when you manufacture you compete against other industrialist and when you take your product to market you are engaging in market PvP.


And what it has to do with combat PVP? If you are competing with someone in the market it is not the same as taking the gun and killing that person. Same as in rl btw. But what are we are arguing about here? It starts going in circles, people saying same things over and over that has nothing to do with the original question.



You didnt mention "combat PvP". You simply stated you didnt like "the pvp aspects" of the game.

EvE is all PvP, almost everything you do in game (and some would argue on the forums) is PvP. The sooner you grasp this point the clearer your understanding of the game will be.

If you balk at the idea of any kind of competition then as has been stated above, EvE online, a PvP based game, is simply not the place for you


Lol, yes I did mentioned it, you just didn't read all of that thread, which i can understand. But honestly, I asked originally a very simple question. I didn't know it would go like 6 pages and now people do not read the whole thread and just ask same questions over.
So apologies to all, but I will not answer anymore if it is the same thing. Sorry all, but just too tired. Didn't realise that it could go as long as that :-)
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#98 - 2014-05-13 11:08:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Mali Talvanen wrote:


Was SWG that game with an interesting economy system? In all searches I put in everyone mentioned eve and some other Star game which I missed. Was closed already. Ty I will check other games you mentioned, but so far from what I have seen Eve seems the best regarding economy system.
I am actually not space games person. I like medieval environment, but Eve world is just so beautiful, same as the ships. Never knew space games can look like that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Galaxies
It was excellent up until the NGE expansion which killed it off. Well.... excellent up until CU and then good up until NGE. It was shut down a couple years ago after years of a low population from the disaster. Eh the economy was ok, was nice to set up shops and sell space ships. Space Empires V is a hard-core turn-based 4X game, probably not something you would be interested in.


No idea what TQ is, nor does google like it. If it's an EMU, those communities are usually pretty poor, and don't show up easily on google.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Mali Talvanen
#99 - 2014-05-13 11:19:09 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Mali Talvanen wrote:


Was SWG that game with an interesting economy system? In all searches I put in everyone mentioned eve and some other Star game which I missed. Was closed already. Ty I will check other games you mentioned, but so far from what I have seen Eve seems the best regarding economy system.
I am actually not space games person. I like medieval environment, but Eve world is just so beautiful, same as the ships. Never knew space games can look like that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Galaxies
It was excellent up until the NGE expansion which killed it off. Well.... excellent up until CU and then good up until NGE. It was shut down a couple years ago after years of a low population from the disaster. Eh the economy was ok, was nice to set up shops and sell space ships. Space Empires V is a hard-core turn-based 4X game, probably not something you would be interested in.


No idea what TQ is, nor does google like it. If it's an EMU, those communities are usually pretty poor, and don't show up easily on google.


Must have been that one, because people at those forums were mad that it was closed. Space Empires seem something like Civilization in space. More strategy game, not my type of thing
Pine Marten
Doomheim
#100 - 2014-05-13 14:20:40 UTC
Jamagh wrote:
EVE on a private server would be horrible. You would have people that were friends with the GM/Admin getting all sorts of stuff for free. like free SP, or free T2 BPOs. I can only imagine what else would be wrong. horrible bugs that would plague the game... I am glad there is not private servers.


Not a private server and we already have that covered.