EVE New Citizens Q&A

So someone in the game chat posted this to me https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TwSh4tBEnbm-kMbYOXbqSnYSEvZdqqm4NYnXSqMZ2Lo/pub
And I think I really need to join the "Nibbler's Brigade"
I need a group of Noob friendly players who are simply focused on just having fun in the game. I don't have HOURS a day to devote to the game, and even if I did, I all I want is just to have fun, do incursions, story missions, maybe some PvP (if I could make enough money to be able to regularly replace ships).
Could someone tell me how to search for them and find them? Or maybe someone knows a similar band or corp that I could join?
Thanks

Thank you for the mention ISD Magwai

Small correction tho.. The version you linked is an older outdated version that is lacking a lot of information, the "complete" guide can be found here.

In that case welcome!

And thank you to both your self and the other ISD's for all the hard work you do around here. We don't always show it, but it is appreciated

Because you're negatively impacting me/them.

Every m3 of ore you mine is an m3 I cannot.
Every unit of Trit you sell pushes my trit values down.
Every ship you build makes mine less valuable

So on and so forth.


You as (presumably) an industrialist do your PVP mainly in the markets ... where (in very general terms) combat pilots are at a disadvantage.

In turn, combat pilots do their PVP with antimatter, where you are at the disadvantage.

Edit -- that said, don't get in bed with NPC corp "groups" ... in very general / broad terms they grief people (by "educating" them with lies) worse than gankers ever could.

Nibbles Brigade are a Center for Advanced Studies special interest group of which there are several, all you need to do is join their ingame chatroom (speech bubble on chat interface) and sign up for their ingame mailing list (done through the Evemail interface), both are named "The Nibbles Brigade".

The same info you have is also available @ http://www.cascorporation.com/cas_resources.html in a slightly more user friendly format.

I guess I get that, I wouldn't have seen it that way. Im so poor that when I lose, say, a cruiser, it sets me back quite a bit. I guess veteran pilots with fat wallets wouldn't look at it from my stand point.

It's not a small loss to me. It's a question of how you view your ships. To me, they are tools. And like any tool, eventually they'll break. That doesn't mean that I wasn't cursing when my power shut off... Especially as I had thought about switching ships when I first heard the thunder. Kicked myself for that, knew the risks.... LOL.

The point is, that it's only a ship. If I were down to a rookie ship & no isk, I'd still enjoy the game, I'd just have to be a bit more selective on what I'd do. And running through low-sec in a rookie ship can be amusing, in and of itself. (And quite risk free as well, rookie ships don't cost anything. )

The "best" way to get over loosing ships is to loose them. I know that sounds a bit strange.
But take cheap ships, frigs and similar. Head into low sec or 0.0 and just run around exploring, doing some occasional PVP if you find a suitable target and try to just have fun.
A frig is cheap, and the loss wont really hurt your wallet.

Now for a safe way to make ISK... Nothing is "safe" in EVE, but as a new player the tutorial and career missions will give you quite a boost to your wallet, and then even more from the SOE arc. From there find a decent corporation or group you can work with that can then help introduce you to more ways to make ISK, either solo or in a group.

Also, dont let your fear of loosing ships prevent you from trying out other things! Go to 0.0, go to low sec, go to WH space.. try it all and then figure out what you enjoy doing. If you let your self be stuck in one place because of this worry, chances are you will find your self in a position where you never dare to try it, and the more time that passes the worse it gets.

As an example of this i will use a player i met about 7 years ago in a random local chat when he was about a week old.
The whole time i have known this person he has had one goal, moving his corporation into 0.0, yet he has never set a foot outside of high sec. To be honest with you i think he can easily count how many times he has left the one high sec system his corp lives in.
Every time i have talked to him it has always been the same story, need bigger ships, need more ISK and "then" he will be ready. Started with a BS, when he got to that point he needed a carrier, then a dread... Last time i talked to him about a half year ago he was sitting mining saving for a supercap because then he would be ready to move to 0.0. But im pretty sure that when he has the ISK a titan will be next on the list.

As you can see, his fear of loosing ships, never being "good enough" has made him incapable of leaving high sec because obviously one cannot survive outside of high sec unless you can fly the biggest ships and have at least 100 million SP.

Please do not fall into the same trap.
Abuse your cheap ships, and your cheap clone. This is the best time to learn, and trust me, t1 frigates is far from useless and plenty of people will find use for you in their fleets

This is pretty much why I buy plex. I don't have hours and hours to devote every day either. The price of plex is worth it for me. Plus it's probably more time effective for me.

I remember being like that, but eventually you will twig what others are saying - ships are fairly disposable, and while losing a ship always hurts at least a little bit, eventually you get inured to it, so long as you always follow the number one rule ("don't fly what you can't afford to lose"). The game isn't so much like a sim where things are precious and solid and subordinate to a sense of accumulation and progression, it's more a game in which things are fairly fleeting and evanescent and subordinate to ongoing gameplay and player interaction - although loss still matters and it still bites (more than almost any other MMO). The game's economy revolves around people making stuff and people breaking stuff, both are absolutely necessary to keep the game rolling.

Things that hurt more are losing expensive implants, or losing some SP because you forgot to update your clone and it gets killed (this is actually, by far, the most gutting thing that can happen to you in EVE, so do be careful!!!), etc.

So long as you always bear in mind that you've signed up for a game in which bad things can happen to you, you'll be ok and will eventually find your flow with the game, even if you're primarily a PvE-er.