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Scamming reaches a new low.

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Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#141 - 2011-12-03 03:15:10 UTC
Good job Skyforger.
Sefner
Banana Enterprises
#142 - 2011-12-03 03:18:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Sefner
Just to summarise OP - Dude tells Corp he is out of game for a while for medical reasons, afforementioned dude gets screwed over by afformentioned corp. Am I missing anything?

Regardless of your "welcome to EVE" and "htfu" comments, it all seems rather heartless.

The truth of this situation is of course unknown but to be honest if someone in game told me "im out of game for 2 weeks to have a baby" or "im out of game for the forseeable future to have major surgery" then frankly Id wish them good luck and see you when you get back. Screwing them over in their absence would not really enter the equation.

Am I wrong?
ConranAntoni
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#143 - 2011-12-03 03:36:03 UTC
People mean to eachother on the internets, news at 11.

Empyrean Warriors - Recruiting now.

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#144 - 2011-12-03 05:32:58 UTC
... I bask in the chaos of this thread ...

IF REAL: I find the fact of the scam regular, I was scammed right upon login when a nameless person bought my free implant in 2005 for like 10isk when I was barely a couple of hours in the game and several others I learned the hard way, up to this day I still fondly remember Lofty for the scam named after him, good memories, but the act of gloating upon the act of this, apparently mentally ill person is a bit , extreme, distasteful and just plain wrong. There are limits, even in a world of rogues and deceit, there are limits.

IF FALSE: 7/10 made me talk for a bit with partners in the room and a twitter repost.

IF BOTH/NEITHER: the Chaos basking was glorious as I enjoy reading people's answers and snippets of some were resent to colleagues in the field.

Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco

Alaric Faelen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#145 - 2011-12-03 06:25:17 UTC
meh, my point stands. One's personal backstory is irrelevant.
If stealing or scamming is bad, then it's so equally for everyone. Were his corp mates bad people to trust? Obviously, but it's not made worse because of someone's personal sob story.

I'd wager most Eve players have suffered tragedy or hardship, but amazingly don't equate RL to Eve. Hey my very first fleet op I was podded by my own FC when he nerd raged. He was a ****, but his podding me isn't made worse because I need a cane to walk or my momma didn't hug me enough. He didn't pod the actual me, retired vet, perma-gimp boo hoo backstory, he podded a fake person in a fake ship in a fake world.

Dope or game addiction or depression- none of that has a place on a video game forum. There are professionals for that, and really, anyone that thinks the way the OP expresses, needs just as much help themselves. We;re just easy to lash out at, and trying to blame Eve for one person's personal issues would be shot down immediately by qualified therapists. Why burst that bubble? Just rant at random people on the internet.

Inappropriate, irrelevant, not even coherent.
Lock it, delete it, and to all, a good nite.
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#146 - 2011-12-03 07:36:53 UTC
Just weak...I'm not surprised that it happened though. People say, "This is Eve, rarr, rabble rabble." Eve is hard, yeah, but its an MMO, real people are involved, people who make friends even in the most openly despicable corps and alliances. The degree we invest in those friendships varies, but in the end, its the same. And for some, those friendships mean a lot. To be betrayed by those you consider friends can sometimes be the straw that broke the camel's back.

I hope everything turns for the best for him and his family, its going to be a long road. I'm glad the offenders are no longer anonymous at least. Surprise, a Nulsec crew.
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Shawnm339
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Fraternity.
#147 - 2011-12-03 07:51:48 UTC
Xpaulusx wrote:
Contacting CCP advertising Dept on any future Box release sets to suggest printing on Box" Do not play under the influence and remember to use brain when playing".


WTF????? Can we just calm down here before we start coming up with rules like that, I'd never be allowed to login
Adamonus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#148 - 2011-12-03 10:19:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Adamonus
Well here is my story (short version):


- I was asking in german channel for help - I got "helped" via audiochat from an older woman ...and got rid of all my ships. I was told: "this is eve, this is eve!" and that it was my mistake and that a lanugage channel is not a help channel..ok, but extra audiochatting for such purposes is a little bit too much rl for my taste...and its less gamecontent but much more like trying to steal somone elses gamekey of course....for which player usually get banned in other games...Keep in mind if you are speaking to somebody you are talking to a real PERSON - and not to a virtual avatar.

- a few days later I was asking in official help channel some mining questions - SAME people catched me up in the belts and looted my container.

This is much more player created "additional content" - and has nothing to do with ccp ans eve.


At Fanfest 2001, CCP was asking their "f.uck yeah!" - answers from community for questions like : "Do you like spaceships?" ...and less "do you like to betray other player?"


IF CCP cannot handle active player harrasement ( and yes I do feel harrased if same people try to loot me more than serveral days) they should bann them from help channel - and use a CCP moderator in their OFFICIAL HELP CHANNEL.


Such a helpchannel-"quality" in a complex mmo like eve is really cind of ridiculous.
saltrock0000
State War Academy
Caldari State
#149 - 2011-12-03 10:51:17 UTC
That is a terrible story and I hope the guy in question recovers soon.

Many people would say EvE's a game, deal with it, trust no-one etc etc. But when you think about it, people are investing thier time, energy and life into this game and we need to maybe respect eachother a little more.

I know in the EULA it states that anything in game actualy belongs to CCP blah blah blah but in my eyes anything someone earns hell even buys with isk which may have been funded by buying plex then selling on the market is thier property.

What occured here was malicious theft and hell in some contrys people have thier hands cut off for less. I seriously hope that the all new all careing CCP take harsh action against tho's involved!

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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#150 - 2011-12-03 10:59:23 UTC
Please keep the discussion in the original thread. Thanks!

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