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[Discussion] How much do we know about the EVE gate?

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Beofryn Sedorak
#1 - 2014-05-12 08:48:54 UTC
I knew it was a wormhole, But according to http://eve.com 's timeline:

"A natural wormhole leading to the New Eden solar system is discovered. Humans travel through the wormhole and begin to explore the worlds beyond. They soon construct a gate around the wormhole providing a stable link between the old stars of humanity and the new world."

I didn't realize they built a gate around the wormhole. This struck a real chord with me with all this talk about player built gates and that monstrosity of a gate that was built in the Prophecy trailer.

Someone somewhere was theorizing that the Amarr didn't want the gate to open because they fear the Terrans.

Is it possible that the gate in the trailer was the re-opening of the EVE Gate?

I'm fairly confident we don't have nearly enough evidence to build a sturdy case for terrans/jove/others yet, I'm just interested in hearing some theory's.
Solecist Project
#2 - 2014-05-12 11:09:22 UTC
Considering that players will be allowed to build their own stargates,
it is unreasonable to assume that it's about the terrans at all.

There might be a case for Jovians though,
but only if it's possible to actually point a gate at a certain direction.


:)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#3 - 2014-05-12 11:10:05 UTC
The what?

Is that a bar in Dodixie?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Velicitia
XS Tech
#4 - 2014-05-12 11:23:39 UTC
Beofryn Sedorak wrote:
I knew it was a wormhole, But according to http://eve.com 's timeline:

"A natural wormhole leading to the New Eden solar system is discovered. Humans travel through the wormhole and begin to explore the worlds beyond. They soon construct a gate around the wormhole providing a stable link between the old stars of humanity and the new world."

I didn't realize they built a gate around the wormhole. This struck a real chord with me with all this talk about player built gates and that monstrosity of a gate that was built in the Prophecy trailer.

Someone somewhere was theorizing that the Amarr didn't want the gate to open because they fear the Terrans.

Is it possible that the gate in the trailer was the re-opening of the EVE Gate?

I'm fairly confident we don't have nearly enough evidence to build a sturdy case for terrans/jove/others yet, I'm just interested in hearing some theory's.



1. The gate structure was built to keep the wormhole open / stable. It collapsed anyway, and ****** over New Eden for like 20,000 years. See the Origins video from last year to get an idea of what it may have looked like.

2. It has nothing to do with the amarr fearing anyone -- the wormhole between "where ever" and New Eden itself is long dead.

3. Nope -- the one in this year's fanfest trailer is a capsuleer-created gate. Much like the stargates that you use between systems today (actually looks to be about the size of an inter-regional gate). The reason the empires don't want us using them is because up to right now, they've had an iron grip on us ... controlling our travel, our refining, our trade ... everything ... With the capsuleers now being able to create stargates, we don't need the empires at all anymore. They fear that we'll form our own "empire" and crush them.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2014-05-12 12:43:19 UTC
Maybe the player buildt gates will be around existing wormholes too, to make them stable.
If you want to close it again, you will first have to put it into shield and armor rf Blink
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#6 - 2014-05-12 12:43:38 UTC
One of the bits and bops left from the gate was a magnetic field inverter that was promptly weaponized to cripple a invading Minmatar fleet and it needed a rare isotope of Isogen as fuel.
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#7 - 2014-05-12 12:58:07 UTC
so can you please direct me to the other [GF]?
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-05-12 16:39:31 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Beofryn Sedorak wrote:
I knew it was a wormhole, But according to http://eve.com 's timeline:

"A natural wormhole leading to the New Eden solar system is discovered. Humans travel through the wormhole and begin to explore the worlds beyond. They soon construct a gate around the wormhole providing a stable link between the old stars of humanity and the new world."

I didn't realize they built a gate around the wormhole. This struck a real chord with me with all this talk about player built gates and that monstrosity of a gate that was built in the Prophecy trailer.

Someone somewhere was theorizing that the Amarr didn't want the gate to open because they fear the Terrans.

Is it possible that the gate in the trailer was the re-opening of the EVE Gate?

I'm fairly confident we don't have nearly enough evidence to build a sturdy case for terrans/jove/others yet, I'm just interested in hearing some theory's.



1. The gate structure was built to keep the wormhole open / stable. It collapsed anyway, and ****** over New Eden for like 20,000 years. See the Origins video from last year to get an idea of what it may have looked like.

2. It has nothing to do with the amarr fearing anyone -- the wormhole between "where ever" and New Eden itself is long dead.

3. Nope -- the one in this year's fanfest trailer is a capsuleer-created gate. Much like the stargates that you use between systems today (actually looks to be about the size of an inter-regional gate). The reason the empires don't want us using them is because up to right now, they've had an iron grip on us ... controlling our travel, our refining, our trade ... everything ... With the capsuleers now being able to create stargates, we don't need the empires at all anymore. They fear that we'll form our own "empire" and crush them.

Actually, it was somewhat larger than a regional gate, it could almost fit a titan through it, and that was just the central iris, the gate itself was massive.

When you take lore into account, it takes a century+ for a ship to get to a system and build a stargate, so that the companion can be built on our end, since normal gates cannot function without a twin. However due to the size of that gate, it may be a JUMPgate, basically allowing you to shoot a fleet at another system, WITHOUT the need for a twin, so that the twin can be built in that system afterwards.

This would mean the Amarr WOULD have a reason to fear it, as the empire's themselves CANNOT just jump into and claim any system they want, they have the long and laborious method of traveling there in warp first. So, this gate WOULD pose a direct threat to the Amarr, especially if they believe the capsuleers might find some Reapers (last part just honestly thinking about why their would be a "prophecy" of any kind that would require that level of action by the Amarr, short of a religious basis and capsuleers opening the gates to hell)
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#9 - 2014-05-12 17:00:09 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:

When you take lore into account, it takes a century+ for a ship to get to a system and build a stargate, so that the companion can be built on our end, since normal gates cannot function without a twin.


Firstly that would depend on the distance that would need to be crossed to get to where the gate needs to be.

Secondly, according to lore, deep-space travel to build gates was abandoned with the advent of the full scale jump drive; a 'blind' jump to a distant system can be calculated and made to where the gate is to be constructed.

I do agree that the gate in the new trailer seems to be something other than your standard jumpgate/stargate.
Graabeerd Khagah
MoonFyre BattleGroup Holdings
#10 - 2014-05-12 17:08:32 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:

When you take lore into account, it takes a century+ for a ship to get to a system and build a stargate, so that the companion can be built on our end, since normal gates cannot function without a twin.


Firstly that would depend on the distance that would need to be crossed to get to where the gate needs to be.

Secondly, according to lore, deep-space travel to build gates was abandoned with the advent of the full scale jump drive; a 'blind' jump to a distant system can be calculated and made to where the gate is to be constructed.

I do agree that the gate in the new trailer seems to be something other than your standard jumpgate/stargate.


Which brings up a question, Would this be the first ever gate that would lead us into new systems not even on the map as is?? Would there even be a slight possibility of more systems to be claimed and explore??

I often wonder if CCP would ever bring in more systems and wondered if this may be some kind of vision on the yet to be??
Velicitia
XS Tech
#11 - 2014-05-12 18:06:10 UTC
Graabeerd Khagah wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:

When you take lore into account, it takes a century+ for a ship to get to a system and build a stargate, so that the companion can be built on our end, since normal gates cannot function without a twin.


Firstly that would depend on the distance that would need to be crossed to get to where the gate needs to be.

Secondly, according to lore, deep-space travel to build gates was abandoned with the advent of the full scale jump drive; a 'blind' jump to a distant system can be calculated and made to where the gate is to be constructed.

I do agree that the gate in the new trailer seems to be something other than your standard jumpgate/stargate.


Which brings up a question, Would this be the first ever gate that would lead us into new systems not even on the map as is?? Would there even be a slight possibility of more systems to be claimed and explore??

I often wonder if CCP would ever bring in more systems and wondered if this may be some kind of vision on the yet to be??


They have at least 3x now

1. The dronelands out in nullsec
2. W-space
3. Black Rise (IIRC) for Gallente/Caldari FW

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#12 - 2014-05-12 19:10:52 UTC
Removed some off topic posts and a post discussing moderation. Keep it on topic please. Thank you.

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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#13 - 2014-05-12 19:20:02 UTC
I know it exploded and for some mysterious reasons turn ppl on this side to monkeys.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#14 - 2014-05-12 19:24:45 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
I know it exploded and for some mysterious reasons turn ppl on this side to monkeys.


WAT - May 12 20:24 PM BST
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#15 - 2014-05-12 20:12:33 UTC
Good thing you marked this post as a discussion. I was unsure what it would be at first, being in the EVE General Discussion forum and everything.

The gate in the Legion trailer has been confirmed to be just a regular gate. The Eve Gate in lore kills anything that approaches it. Tears it apart with gravity waves or something. It is also bigger than a star. Perhaps visit the New Eden system sometime and see for yourself?

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Kalrissia
Temporal Incursion
#16 - 2014-05-12 20:14:29 UTC
The Eve Wormhole took humankind to another part of the galaxy. It was not connected to any nearby system as such, more a really distant and unreachable part of the galactic quadrant.
In 2007 ( incidentally Christmas time for us ) another 'bright star' appeared in space and was easily seen from every system.
Some information has come to light ( no pun intended ) that this was the light that travelled to us from the other side of the collapsed Eve Gate when it exploded, some 20,000 light years away.
Just a bit of info there.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#17 - 2014-05-12 21:16:49 UTC
I have removed a rule breaking post.

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Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.



On topic, you might want to be interested to read this EVElopedia article.

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#18 - 2014-05-12 21:21:23 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:


The gate in the Legion trailer has been confirmed to be just a regular gate.


Not that I would ever dream of dismissing anything you say out of hand, but would you happen to have a citation? I'm curious.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#19 - 2014-05-12 21:27:50 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:


The gate in the Legion trailer has been confirmed to be just a regular gate.


Not that I would ever dream of dismissing anything you say out of hand, but would you happen to have a citation? I'm curious.


http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/24mxst/eve_online_the_prophecy_fanfest_2014_trailer/ch8pwhz

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Beofryn Sedorak
#20 - 2014-05-12 21:28:12 UTC
Kalrissia wrote:
The Eve Wormhole took humankind to another part of the galaxy. It was not connected to any nearby system as such, more a really distant and unreachable part of the galactic quadrant.
In 2007 ( incidentally Christmas time for us ) another 'bright star' appeared in space and was easily seen from every system.
Some information has come to light ( no pun intended ) that this was the light that travelled to us from the other side of the collapsed Eve Gate when it exploded, some 20,000 light years away.
Just a bit of info there.


That's pretty interesting, Could you point me to the source of this information?
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