Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hence no reason to give stacking penalties to cap mods/rigs.

I think when you first started this tiericide project you forgot (or didn't know) about the changes to warp mechanics, so it didn't factor in to your balancing plans... but i could be wrong.

Whatever the case, i can't remember the last time i have seen anything bigger that a cruiser in a fight. It seems like 90% of people only use interceptors to travel these days, which doesn't make for a diverse eve imo.

Please add a ship module that increases warp speed but requires too much power/CPU for a frigate to use.

Yea and I sure would love to hear the lore reason why a bigger ship with presumably bigger/more advanced engines doesn't have the capacity to warp faster than a tiny frigate.

Classic case of too much screwing around.

I was all for the acceleration change, the further screwing with the warp speeds is what killed pretty much all of the larger hulls.

Lol

Indeed, mass has nothing to do with warp speed. Just like how the dreadnought catches USS Enterprise in warp, because its engine is more advanced and powerful than the smaller Enterprise. Realistic speaking, bigger ship should warp faster than smaller ship, but has lower velocity and align speed when using conventional engines compare to smaller ships because of the mass.

Back to topic. If the logic of "SINCE EVERYTHING ELSE HAS PENALTY, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ADD PENALTY TO THIS MODULE AND WHATEVER ELSE THAT AFFECTS IT REGARDLESS OF ITS ORIGINAL DESIGN INTENT AND DRAWBACK" is what applies here in Fozzie's logic, then we should just add stacking penalty to everything else. Co-Processor, reinforced bulkhead, cargo expander, because somewhere in this tiny eve cluster someone is gonna find a way to make their ship too OP by stacking these things up and make everything else obsolete.

Add stacking penalty to people that fit their ship with multiple disruptor because it's OP and points two people instead of one.
Add stacking penalty to webs because if you put second web on a target it is literally standing still and therefore too OP.
Add stacking penalty to target paint because multiple target paint on one ship allows phoenix to blap my mining barges and therefore too phucking OP.

BTW. NOT ALL ASTRONAUTIC RIG HAS STACKING PENALTY BESIDES WARP SPEED. FOZZIE YOU SHOULD TRY PLAY THE GAME FIRST BEFORE YOU NERF STUFF.

(inb4 Fozzie adds them)

CCP Please, dont you have better things to do? How about that useless auto-targeting missile that nobody ever use? Tweaking things that is perfect the way they are doesn't make you look like you are working hard. Stacking modules makes the environment more diverse as the possibility for fitting ships become endless. Why? Because there is a reason to seek, experiment, and explore the best fit that will overcome your adversaries. Just because everyone's module is equally crappy doesn't make this game diverse.

Granted, if a player would fit different modules on the ship instead of stacking them, it would make the fitting diverse.
IT CERTAINLY LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER, NOT IN REALITY.

The reality is, if your ship doesn't out-stand in certain way when facing stronger opponents ie. blobs, you will have less chance of surviving and don't even think about killing or pvping. And that's why stacking module encourages certain fits although will do terrible at certain aspect, it will do very well in other aspect. And we use the strong point of the fit in hope to counter our adversaries.

And I'm very disappointed at Fozzie for what he said about CCP is really sorry about how our titan is gonna be less effective. It sounded very insincere toward the players coming from a dev. Very unprofessional, and disappointing.

Would it be possible to directly correlate Warp Speed with Jump Range for the Ascendancy implants? So the old rig makes you warp faster, the Ascendancy set makes you warp faster AND jump further? Turn it into a dream implant set for jump freighter pilots and maybe bridging titans?

The only reason I can see stacking penalties on warp speed rigs as justified would be to keep T1 freighters from warping faster than T2 freighters.

But then I ran the math and found T1 freighters rigged with three T2 hyperspatial velocity rigs will warp 4.1% faster than a T2 freighter with two of the same rigs even with stacking penalties. Down from a whopping 12.4%. A massive change of 8.3%.

But then I realized T2 freighters have jump drives which keeps them traveling exponentially faster than than T1 freighters no matter what. Making me realize the only justification I could imagine for this change was completely silly from every possible standpoint.

So, considering all the other reasons fozzie has put forth to justify this change have been completely demolished by other people in the thread, I'm seriously at a loss.

yes i use

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How will this work with respect to the new warp speed enhancement modules in Kronos (0.2, 0.25 and 0.3 AU/s)? Will these be stacking penalized with hyperspacial rigs, with each other, not at all - or some combination thereof? Inquiring minds would like to know...