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What is the point of eve?

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Betty Sue
Corporate Scum
#1 - 2014-05-11 20:11:10 UTC
I'm asking this as a serious question. I have played this game off and on since 2005. I have tired abit of everything but all that seems to happen to me anyhow is crap.

I will give 2 examples that happened to me this weekend alone.

was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

I stop playing before the wormhole stuff got really interesting so I figured I'd take a look see what its like, get a cheap probe ship going found a wormhole go into it fly to an asteroid belt and BOOM jumped by like 50 guys the destroy my ship and then spent around 40 mins flying around my pod laughing at me in local chat. I didn't care much cause I was just playing an alt running missions and I'm use to that ****.

So I put up with the type of stuff all the time I always seem to get this short end of the stick, I've tried to get into corps but have never had luck, I tired PVP but it always seems people are in groups and all the stuff I read that your suppose to be able to go at solo never plays out. I do mission running on my main account but honestly that great very boring very fast

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game? so far all I've gotten out of it is I will put in hours of my free time make money just to loose a good chunk of it to some ******* or group of *******.

Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome
Thead Enco
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2014-05-11 20:13:04 UTC
No
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#3 - 2014-05-11 20:13:51 UTC
Your experience might benefit a lot by joining a corp...

Else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EY7lYRneHc
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#4 - 2014-05-11 20:14:53 UTC
You are supposed to have fun, entertainment or distraction/escapism. You know, like with any other game. Oh, a sense of achievement may also be on your list. And meeting people from around the world. Ego bloating and attention seeking is also something to take out of this game.

In the end, the point is what you make of it.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-05-11 20:17:03 UTC
Get into Eve-Uni and take part in the stuff that interests you, they are quite good at teaching players how Eve works.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2014-05-11 20:26:04 UTC
The point of EVE is to play the game.
What this entails is for you to decide.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7 - 2014-05-11 20:28:03 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PQ6335puOc

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
WASPY69
Xerum.
#8 - 2014-05-11 20:31:21 UTC
You've been playing on and off since 05 yet you're asking all these questions..
Instead of coming up with a witty, yet demeaning reply to your questions i'll answer it in a simple sentence.

Join a well known corp/alliance that isn't based in high sec, get into roams/ops/whatever, stop grinding missions and you will rekindle your love for EVE.

Simple as that. And assuming your main has a non-**** rep and/or corp history, the above should be of no problem.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-05-11 20:35:14 UTC
Betty Sue wrote:
What is the point of eve?



dude, philosophical questions about the meaning of EVE at this time of the day?
Do know about the meaning of life?
What comes first, if the chicken or the egg?
Why Wales is as such?
Or why german women should shave their legs but won't?
Or why a lot of crap tastes like chicken?

You do, then awesome, if not, shut up and harden the **** up.

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#10 - 2014-05-11 20:38:16 UTC
I may have gotten a bingo with your post, OP. Shocked

All joking aside, however...

The game is exactly what you make it. You can literally push the bounds of your imagination. Granted, you may get your hand slapped from time to time by our CCP overseers, but you are pretty free in your decision making.

Have fun. Put isk on the back burner. Remember that PvP does not necessarily entail spaceship on spaceship violence.

Be creative. Constantly have ideas. Read the EULA and TOS, over and over again. Challenge your own ideas with petitions to make sure you fall within the rules.

Develop a thick skin. The community is all about the lulz. Has been, will continue to be.

And always remember that it is a constant cycle.

Harvest.

Create.

Sell.

Buy.

Destroy.

And this applies to anything. Always.

BlinkBig smile

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#11 - 2014-05-11 20:41:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

edit: beaten.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#12 - 2014-05-11 20:47:41 UTC
Seems like the part your missing is the friendship and socal side.

There is nothing wrong with solo play in the game, especially for the PvE aspects. However, while solo PvP is possible, if you want to fight often, you'll really benefit from being in a group (even small 2-3 pilots), where you can assist each other and leverage off each ithers strengths and having more fitting slots and ships.

The Multiplayer part of MMO doesn't only refer to there being opposing players. Ot also refers to their being friends who help you out.
Marsha Mallow
#13 - 2014-05-11 20:48:27 UTC
Betty Sue wrote:
was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

Looking at your killboard, you took 464m worth of mods through Niarja in a t1 hauler on Tuesday with only cargo mods fitted. Whilst the 'v0v it happens so move on' is a good attitude, learn from these mistakes so you don't get caught out again.

Re the rest, you don't even need to find a corp where you get along with everyone. A handful of people makes all the difference. Don't stop looking, but keep in mind if you make persistent mistakes like the one above people will try to correct that.

We can't tell you how to derive enjoyment, you're going to have to work that out for yourself. Before you blame the game and the community, consider how much of your frustration is coming from your playstyle and the choices you make.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#14 - 2014-05-11 21:05:08 UTC
Betty Sue wrote:
I'm asking this as a serious question. I have played this game off and on since 2005. I have tired abit of everything but all that seems to happen to me anyhow is crap.

I will give 2 examples that happened to me this weekend alone.

was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

I stop playing before the wormhole stuff got really interesting so I figured I'd take a look see what its like, get a cheap probe ship going found a wormhole go into it fly to an asteroid belt and BOOM jumped by like 50 guys the destroy my ship and then spent around 40 mins flying around my pod laughing at me in local chat. I didn't care much cause I was just playing an alt running missions and I'm use to that ****.

So I put up with the type of stuff all the time I always seem to get this short end of the stick, I've tried to get into corps but have never had luck, I tired PVP but it always seems people are in groups and all the stuff I read that your suppose to be able to go at solo never plays out. I do mission running on my main account but honestly that great very boring very fast

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game? so far all I've gotten out of it is I will put in hours of my free time make money just to loose a good chunk of it to some ******* or group of *******.

Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome


Many people enjoy the experience of learning from their mistakes and mastering a hostile environment so that they can thrive and succeed in it.

I don't know why you play.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Betty Sue
Corporate Scum
#15 - 2014-05-11 21:11:38 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Looking at your killboard, you took 464m worth of mods through Niarja in a t1 hauler on Tuesday with only cargo mods fitted. Whilst the 'v0v it happens so move on' is a good attitude, learn from these mistakes so you don't get caught out again.


ftr that was a different event not the one I was talking about in my post, ya I just moving some stuff like 2 sectors didn't think I'd get attack I fly around there all the time with stuff like that never happened before
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#16 - 2014-05-11 21:12:32 UTC
It's usually also known as a "scrabmler" or "disruptor". Infinity Point is way cooler though.

Jokes aside.

Join a corp, find people you enjoy playing with (I tried several different corps) and make friends. I play eve to play with my friends more than to blow **** up, which is a nice plus.

This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165
Betty Sue
Corporate Scum
#17 - 2014-05-11 21:20:12 UTC
Malcanis wrote:


Many people enjoy the experience of learning from their mistakes and mastering a hostile environment so that they can thrive and succeed in it.

I don't know why you play.



Atm I play because I feel like I've barely touched the surface of this game in the time I've played, yes I've played since 2005 but I might only getting to play for maybe a month most of the time only 2 weeks then cause of my old work I had to move around alot. So really I maybe only have 6 - 7 months of real play time.

I'm asking what the point is of this game in hope's of more experienced players maybe helping me understand the game better, I've tired to get into corps but like it says I never heard back, how I apply to them is via that in-game option. I've asked in game for some help and other times on the forums but mostly my questions are answered by people telling me to "suck it up" or other less friendly things. As is the way of the internet no one ever really seems to want to lend a hand as you can tell by this post only a few answers and not one person tossed out "hey you can join my corp and I will give you a hand"

No I'm not asking for stuff in-game I can get my own items what I'm asking for is knowledge of the game so I can get a better understanding of what it is

hence "what is the point of eve"
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#18 - 2014-05-11 21:25:28 UTC
Betty Sue wrote:
not one person tossed out "hey you can join my corp and I will give you a hand"



Have you tried.. uh y'know.. asking for help directly or applying?

I havent invited you to my corp because we only hire people called McCandless

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Betty Sue
Corporate Scum
#19 - 2014-05-11 21:30:03 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:


Have you tried.. uh y'know.. asking for help directly or applying?

I havent invited you to my corp because we only hire people called McCandless



yes I have, but not maybe people want to help or the people that did offer help tried to scam me out of large amounts of ISK
Marsha Mallow
#20 - 2014-05-11 21:36:56 UTC
Betty Sue wrote:
ftr that was a different event not the one I was talking about in my post, ya I just moving some stuff like 2 sectors didn't think I'd get attack I fly around there all the time with stuff like that never happened before

Sounds like you've had a bit of a bad week. Niarja is on the most direct highsec route between Jita/Amarr. It's been a gank hotspot for years. If you don't interract much wth other players, the only way to learn this is by losing stuff.

I'm not going to be as rude as some of the earlier posters, but a lot of your comments are signalling ignorance of basic game mechanics and are probably the cause of your frustration. If you've been around since 2005 but not had much playtime and are still struggling with stuff like this it's never too late to get some guidance. I'd strongly recommend something like E-Uni or a solid rookie corp who can guide you in areas you may need help with. It is annoying losing stuff, but it does ease off once you learn why it happened and adjust your playstyle. There's a hell of a lot of guides floating about online you might find useful and not all of them are hefty reads.

Regarding joining corps, don't just apply ingame and expect them to accept. A lot of corps like to chat to recruits beforehand. If you find a corp you like the look of, check their corp info (sometimes it will redirect you to their forums) and have a good read of what they expect. If they have a public channel, go in and chat with them for a bit, or contact a recruiter by mail and arrange a chat. There's a New Player sub-forum here and a recruitment forum here, as well as an ingame recruitment channel you can join and watch for adverts.

Good luck P

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
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