Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Wait wait wait... a RS will be hard to tank for lvl4's? Really?

It can already passive tank lvl4's.. And that's not changing.. you just need to, as always, chose between Damage, Damage Application, and Tank. Just like EVERY other ship.

Citadel cruise missiles will hammer cruisers. What exactly makes you think cruise missiles, the most widely used weapon in level 4 missions, are unable to land their damage?

That's just not right, and you know it.

Okay -- this echoes my feelings on your changes to the cruisers, Gila esp... but here goes..

You plan to do this ::: to realize your idea that the battleships are heavy & sentry drone masters

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RATTLESNAKE

Gallente Battleship Bonus: -------------->>> HUGE issue -- here we go nuking 1/2 of what makes these ships so wonderful -- the seamless blend of Missile Capabilty and Universal Drone Mastery, into a focus on Drones as a "primary weapon system" sadly the implementation is just joke.

10% bonus to kinetic and thermal missile damage (was 10% drone damage and hitpoints) -- you pull our

Role Bonus:
275% bonus to heavy and sentry drone damage and hitpoints (was 50% bonus to Cruise missile and Torpedo max velocity)

Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50(-75) / 175(-225)


What will it MEAN for us as pilots??

We lose our alpha strike rang with Cruise Missiles & Torpedos... in exchange we get a bonus to missile KI/TH damage

in payment for that -- you **** our drone capacity to a ludicrous degree before teling us that with a comparatively miniscule drone bay and by comparrison pitiful bandwitdth altment - we can penny ante out heavy or sentry drones -- but we're to think positive since they have a crazy damage bonus and uber buffed HP .. honestly...... losing most of the punch on my Cruise missiles and Torpedos with the hamstringing of my reach and then losing all flexibility in Drone allocation, or even the capacity to maintain the needed wings for damage and situational changes on the fly.

Its frightening and really deserving of a serous rethink asap.

Regards.

SA

First, what punch is the rattle losing? Its gaining 50% more punch from its missiles.

Second, you dont need the huge dronebay as the heavies and sentries take up much less room.[/quote]

Let me clarify.

Right now in my Rattlersnake, I with my immense bays maintain discreet wings of damage type and situationally queued Drones. I deploy them and know that no matter what I send out -- its got a 50% bonus to its Damage and Hitpoints.

I can deploy wings with a variety of combinations and include all my drone types. The Bandwitdh and Volume of Drones is not changing in the update that I can see.... what that means to me NOW, is that when I want to deploy heavy drones

I only have 50MB of bandwidth to do it in, so (2) heavies for example out of teh 7 its possible to put in now by comparrison miniscule bays.

[ IF THEY have reduced the VOlume and Bandwitdth of drones -- then HOORAH??? But I didn't see it, and I did look ]

Now --> In regards to Missiles.

We used to have a 50% bonues to the max velocity on ALL of our Torpedos and Cruise missiles - regardless of type... which translates as a huge increase to their effective ranges w/o having to rely on fittings.

But now, we lose that entirely, gaining instead at max a 50% damage bonus two TWO Damage profiled weapons. I'd much rather keep my univeral alpha range avantage.

Hope that helps clarify.

SA

Sorry to be a pain, but can you share a link on where you saw any confirmation that the Drone pysical sizes are being changed?

I know about the speed changes, but no mention was made of physical size changes anywhere that I can find. I would feel a lot better about the entire changeplan. So as far as I can so far -- there are NO CHANGES to over all Drone Bandwitdh requirements, or to the Actual Drone Physical Volumes required. Again -- if you have a source on that I would dearly love to see it!!!

Thanks,

SA

Notice how i said effective. a 275% bonus on 2 drones is equal to 7.5 drones. Same as it is currently.

With this being said, 175 is still not half (or even 0.4), and more inconvenient in that you cannot have 3 flights + lights + salvage as before.

Just saying.

Thanks all -- that definitely does help clarify things.

SA

These were simple dps buffs needed to bring the rattlesnake in-line. There is no reason for the rattlesnake has to lose its missile velocity bonus or 400m3 drone bay.

This new rattlesnake will do zero missile damage when ships get out of torpedo range, and without missile velocity bonus, that happens very often.

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Are you talking about targets slipping out of torp range in PvP or PvE? If it's PvP shouldn't your arget be scrammed and webbed when using torps? So how do they slip out of range?
If it's PvE you're talking about .... you're using torps in PvE???? Hint... you're doing it wrong