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Making corporation internal PVP optional
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
#21 - 2014-05-11 01:36:27 UTC
Pretty Pony Princess wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
being lonely and in an NPC corp has its price for being safe.

Eve is a MMO, you should not need to be alone to feel safe-ish.


You have that backwards. The only time you should be relatively safe is when you're alone.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#22 - 2014-05-11 06:28:09 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
ull have to spell that out.

Kronos does not force players out of NPC corps, nor does it make flying cheap ships difficult.


It forces players to move expensive manufacturing and science equipment around constantly to find adequate installations, forces them to move expensive assets in vulnerable POS, forces them to use cumbersome methods with roles and access rights for the BPO usage in player corps to prevent theft (like creating a 1-man corp besides your main corp, which holds all the BPO and copies for the main corp constantly), etc pp.

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Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-05-11 07:14:52 UTC
It doesn't force anything. It encourages... but in Eve tradition.... you are free to be as inefficient and risk adverse as you would like.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#24 - 2014-05-11 07:16:43 UTC
you must be new here.

do you have a moment to talk about Lord Potato?
fudface
ACME-INC
#25 - 2014-05-11 07:27:39 UTC
personally, i have found myself in fleet with corp mates running incursions and while remote repping a corp mate while shooting baddies, my lock list emptied , then while i was locking up more baddies to kill, my lock switched over to my corp mate and instead of shooting baddies i started shooting my corp mate instead.

maybe its just down to me being terrible working with others or just bad hand eye coordination, but having the ability to stop shooting corp mates by accident would benefit both myself and my corp mates.

my 2 isk worth Big smile

my 2 isk worth
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#26 - 2014-05-11 07:32:59 UTC
Kenrailae wrote:
It doesn't force anything. It encourages... but in Eve tradition.... you are free to be as inefficient and risk adverse as you would like.


Right. Forgive me my poor wording. It is of course only encouragement and incentives that CCP introduces. Roll

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admiral root
Red Galaxy
#27 - 2014-05-11 07:34:47 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Kenrailae wrote:
It doesn't force anything. It encourages... but in Eve tradition.... you are free to be as inefficient and risk adverse as you would like.


Right. Forgive me my poor wording. It is of course only encouragement and incentives that CCP introduces. Roll


Despite you rolling your eyes, you're actually correct.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-05-11 07:38:27 UTC
Kate Blaze wrote:
CCP should forbid asking for personal information (which would include the API keys) AND have option to hide your corporation history.

TLDR: Make carebears cry and awoxers happy.


API keys aren't personal information. they don't include any personal data on them, only ingame info.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#29 - 2014-05-11 07:38:47 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Kenrailae wrote:
It doesn't force anything. It encourages... but in Eve tradition.... you are free to be as inefficient and risk adverse as you would like.


Right. Forgive me my poor wording. It is of course only encouragement and incentives that CCP introduces. Roll


Despite you rolling your eyes, you're actually correct.


Yay. In good old forum tradition:

"It encourages/incites players to move expensive manufacturing and science equipment around constantly to find adequate installations, encourages/incites them to move expensive assets in vulnerable POS, encourages/incites them to use cumbersome methods with roles and access rights for the BPO usage in player corps to prevent theft (like creating a 1-man corp besides your main corp, which holds all the BPO and copies for the main corp constantly), etc pp."

So... I still don't see a difference to my original post with the verb "to force".Ugh

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admiral root
Red Galaxy
#30 - 2014-05-11 07:41:36 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
So... I still don't see a difference to my original post with the verb "to force".Ugh


If they were forcing you it wouldn't be optional. Unless they're about to drop a bombshell at the last minute, you'll be as free to be as inefficient as you want after the changes as you are today.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Anya Dyonas
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-05-11 07:41:44 UTC
I agree with the original post. Under the current game mechanics, you can trust your alliance members in space more than corp members. It doesn't make sense. The option to disable corp-PVP seems a fair and reasonable option. If you don't like it, your corp doesn't have to use it.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#32 - 2014-05-11 07:42:30 UTC
Anya Dyonas wrote:
I agree with the original post. Under the current game mechanics, you can trust your alliance members in space more than corp members. It doesn't make sense. The option to disable corp-PVP seems a fair and reasonable option. If you don't like it, your corp doesn't have to use it.


Hahahahahahahahahaha. You trust people in Eve? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#33 - 2014-05-11 07:44:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
admiral root wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
So... I still don't see a difference to my original post with the verb "to force".Ugh


If they were forcing you it wouldn't be optional. Unless they're about to drop a bombshell at the last minute, you'll be as free to be as inefficient as you want after the changes as you are today.


It is not optional. There is no difference between an enormous encouragement/incentive and applied mediocre force. It is also not optional because if I don't comply at least a little bit, I cannot produce/science to make money and lose money instead. There is no optional in this patch. Blink

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-05-11 07:45:01 UTC
Oh, Rivr. You're always good for a laugh :)

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#35 - 2014-05-11 07:49:21 UTC
Kenrailae wrote:
Oh, Rivr. You're always good for a laugh :)


Always glad to give you an enjoyable time with my perception of the game. I must admit, this feeling is mutual. Smile

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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#36 - 2014-05-11 07:56:27 UTC
Lol

The Tears Must Flow
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