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Laptop suggestions?

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Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-05-09 23:58:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Hal Morsh
Ok well I figured this would be the best place to ask. What is a reasonably priced laptop I could get for gaming preferably with a large screen, because my last laptop was a gateway FX series. So it had a good sized screen and even then couldn't fit eves massive box fest. Couldn't see my damn ship.

I play games like dead space 3, Mass effect 3 and obviously eve, ya know just the latest titles. I know a cheap but powerful desktop can be made but for reasons this has to be a laptop. Any suggestions?

It had I think 4gb of ram the video card was an nvidia of some sort but I can't check, it was enough for almost maxed eve minus the anti aliasing, and the CPU was a dual core 2.0 ghz, while good enough for eve caused unwanted freeze ups in games like tribes ascend and dead space 3.

The previous laptop was great, except for the fact that previously being thrown busted a bottom plate, then some dinner being thrown at it later broke the battery off, then after a while of duct tape I finally got angry enough in an argument to smash it until the screen broke off. Won't be doing that ever again >.>.

And no the argument wasn't about eve. Otherwise it would be a hilarious story I'm sure. I had it for about a year and a half, maybe two. It was used when I got it though.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#2 - 2014-05-10 00:19:16 UTC
I was going to suggest getting a convertible, but they are not smash resistant either. Maybe a Toughbook? EVE will run on most anything new these days.

I'm in it for the money

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Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-05-10 00:20:17 UTC
I don't intend on smashing another PC. I am undergoing eve withdrawal at the moment among other games.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#4 - 2014-05-10 00:22:54 UTC
Get a Thinkpad T540 if you plan or need to abuse this one too. They have good GPU and screen res options and can take a decent beating.

Otherwise a sturdy desktop PC chained or attached to your desk might be more appropriate.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#5 - 2014-05-10 00:32:20 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Otherwise a sturdy desktop PC chained or attached to your desk might be more appropriate.

Well even that it doesn't even need to be near the desk. You just need a long monitor cord then everything else wireless. That way when one starts repeatedly slamming the keyboard against the desk, the PC case is ...well hopefully out of range for at least the moment it takes the keyboard to disintegrate.

I'm in it for the money

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Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-05-10 01:05:57 UTC
Well the thinkpad is 1,000$. So either that or the Alienware? It's the same price, all I care about is performance and longevity. My previous few laptops weren't ridded of from smashing or broken screens/hinges. One was a fan failure, and another was some chip located away from the fans and heat sinks overheating, it was out of the way near the mouse pad and said AMD on it. Putting something cold on it prevented crashing, but why would something that gets hot not be put with a heatsink? It wasn't a very fast laptop either. I'm assuming maybe lower end video cards don't have heatsinks??

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#7 - 2014-05-10 01:23:30 UTC
Then just don't get one with a mechanical HD. That's primarily what causes the case to heat up so much. They kill off the battery faster too. Since replacing my HDD with an SSD, my laptop runs nearly cold... apart from a little warmth from memory.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#8 - 2014-05-10 01:50:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Webvan wrote:
Then just don't get one with a mechanical HD. That's primarily what causes the case to heat up so much. They kill off the battery faster too. Since replacing my HDD with an SSD, my laptop runs nearly cold... apart from a little warmth from memory.


Not to mention an SSD will withstand a lot more abuse and will be 10X+ faster.

The 120GB mSATA SSD I put in my lappy was a little bigger than a large postage stamp, and I almost needed tweezers to install it. For less than $100 they are great snap-in replacements for spinning rust drives if the lappy has a mSATA slot, which all the Thinkpads have. If you know how to load & setup your own OS, don't buy these drives from DELL or Lenovo or you'll pay far too much. Same goes with memory upgrades, if you want more than 4GB buy it with 4, and get an aftermarket RAM kit.

When it comes to which one to get OP, compare RAM, CPU, GPU, warranty and screen resolution. Shoot for 3-year warranty if you can get it. DELL/Alienware and Lenovo are about on par with each other for their high-end stuff, so when faced with a choice for similar or identical kit, call both places and try to haggle, DELL is really hungry right now, they might make you a good deal.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#9 - 2014-05-10 05:52:04 UTC
I would recommend that you buy more power than you need so that way you don't melt something in it from continuous use .

This more or less is what i am thinking of getting for my self HP custom

More isk ? Aorus x7 dual gpu.

More screen? Alienware 18

low end laptops cant push large resolutions no matter the screen size hence your problem with eve menus / boxes earlier.

All of above will run eve on cold side no problem .

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#10 - 2014-05-10 08:16:56 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:

This more or less is what i am thinking of getting for my self HP custom

I'd go with the HP. Actually... I have one Smile and a Toshiba satellite as well, both a couple years old. I'm not a fan of Lenovo, and Alienware is ok enough. But for the HP there, edit out the hybrid drive. Let me make this clear. DON'T get a hybrid drive!! best of no worlds. Just get a pure SSD to whatever size your budget will allow, even a 256GB will work well enough on a Windows system (128GB under Linux). You can always use an external storage later, just don't clutter up the internal drive with useless junk.

Also, another thing to edit out if you can, is the OS. Have them send it to you as a blank system, no OS installed. Yeeears ago, you could find a laptop with really nice software bundles. Like I bought a gateway laptop long ago, it had the full version of M$ Office, a bunch of other good software like that as well, bundle worth about $1000 if bought off the shelf on a laptop I got for $1200, most of the bundle was useful for me and why I bought it. What do you get now? lol spyware, malware, useless bloatware crap you have no hope of removing without a technical cert on your side... and even then argh!!! heh. So, imo, I'd opt out of the wonderful pre-install and just go buy the OS install disk you want without all the added junk, probably Win 7 or 8 which ever you prefer there. They should still send you a drivers disk, but if not you can find a download someplace, Windows will still install and run the system w/o it until you can get the better drivers.

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Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-05-10 19:30:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Hal Morsh
I've never had hard drive issues, occasionally a sweaty lap or tummy from it heating up which is only sometimes a summer problem, I'm only a skinny neckbeard, no jello belly. Do solid drives have limited writes over long term? Or is that a non issue?

Once I save a bit I will be picking up something. My dad likes hp because it's what he's always used. Can't wait to get back into EVE. May be a few months though :(

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#12 - 2014-05-10 22:21:30 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
I've never had hard drive issues, occasionally a sweaty lap or tummy from it heating up which is only sometimes a summer problem, I'm only a skinny neckbeard, no jello belly. Do solid drives have limited writes over long term? Or is that a non issue?

Once I save a bit I will be picking up something. My dad likes hp because it's what he's always used. Can't wait to get back into EVE. May be a few months though :(
Both have age limiting issues. If you took your hhd and put it into storage for 10 or 20 years, any data on it may be lost when you go back to get the data. Unless you run a high volume web server, there is no real issue with ssd, and will most likely outlive any hhd and especially in a laptop.

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Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#13 - 2014-05-10 22:28:45 UTC
Seriously, just get an SSD.

Best thing since sliced bread. Only downside to them is they are still expensive compared to HDD if you need a ton of storage.