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Took a massive 56% sec status hit on a kill in a 0.4 is this normal?
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CPT Bridgehouse
TheAuthority
#1 - 2014-05-09 08:33:17 UTC  |  Edited by: CPT Bridgehouse
Hey, I recently killed a procurer in a 0.4 system and didn't pod kill the poor guy. Now normally i would take between 1% - 3% sec status hit but this time i took 11% and now i can't go to HS.


It is going to cost me around 200m in soldier tags if i want to go back. Is this a normal amount to take a hit by as i have sometimes engaged in High sec and i have not lost as much sec stat as i did on that particular kill.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2 - 2014-05-09 09:41:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
For not podding the guy, that seems large. Are you sure you didn't lock his pod and activate any highslot module, even a scram against it while someone else killed it?

You don't need to spend that much ISK. You can rat for the tags. Both Barlequet and Aulbres (and surrounding systems) seem to have good spawn rates of clone soldier rats and with BNI virtually non-existant in Barlequet now, you can pretty much rat to your hearts content.

Clone soldier rats also give a good sec status bonus as well as the tags. Just a few should recover that 11%.

Additionally, you don't need to bring yoursec status back to 0. You can spend less and just bring it back under -2
Plug in Baby
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-05-09 09:42:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Plug in Baby
Did you agress the pod? I'm pretty sure agression gives a sec hit.

Just accept it and stop living in highsec, congratulations you've finished the tutorial! You'll probably get more fights once you go flashy as well.

If not then you can always farm sec from rats I guess.

This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main.
CPT Bridgehouse
TheAuthority
#4 - 2014-05-09 09:50:27 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
For not podding the guy, that seems large. Are you sure you didn't lock his pod and activate any highslot module, even a scram against it while someone else killed it?

You don't need to spend that much ISK. You can rat for the tags. Both Barlequet and Aulbres (and surrounding systems) seem to have good spawn rates of clone soldier rats and with BNI virtually non-existant in Barlequet now, you can pretty much rat to your hearts content.

Clone soldier rats also give a good sec status bonus as well as the tags. Just a few should recover that 11%.

Additionally, you don't need to bring yoursec status back to 0. You can spend less and just bring it back under -2



Well i did lock his pod and scram it but that's it(i do that with most of my victims u never know they may pay you to keep there implants). and i have been fighting in low for 4 months and never took a hit like it i just want clarification as to it was a glitch or not , i may think twice next time b4 i engage a miner for no reason lol.
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#5 - 2014-05-09 09:51:01 UTC
Embrace this moment on your path to -10.0.
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#6 - 2014-05-09 09:51:46 UTC
CPT Bridgehouse wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
For not podding the guy, that seems large. Are you sure you didn't lock his pod and activate any highslot module, even a scram against it while someone else killed it?

You don't need to spend that much ISK. You can rat for the tags. Both Barlequet and Aulbres (and surrounding systems) seem to have good spawn rates of clone soldier rats and with BNI virtually non-existant in Barlequet now, you can pretty much rat to your hearts content.

Clone soldier rats also give a good sec status bonus as well as the tags. Just a few should recover that 11%.

Additionally, you don't need to bring yoursec status back to 0. You can spend less and just bring it back under -2



Well i did lock his pod and scram it but that's it(i do that with most of my victims u never know they may pay you to keep there implants). and i have been fighting in low for 4 months and never took a hit like it i just want clarification as to it was a glitch or not , i may think twice next time b4 i engage a miner for no reason lol.


That's enough. Someone else killed him and you're on the KM. Congrats!
CPT Bridgehouse
TheAuthority
#7 - 2014-05-09 09:52:39 UTC
Miriya Zakalwe wrote:
CPT Bridgehouse wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
For not podding the guy, that seems large. Are you sure you didn't lock his pod and activate any highslot module, even a scram against it while someone else killed it?

You don't need to spend that much ISK. You can rat for the tags. Both Barlequet and Aulbres (and surrounding systems) seem to have good spawn rates of clone soldier rats and with BNI virtually non-existant in Barlequet now, you can pretty much rat to your hearts content.

Clone soldier rats also give a good sec status bonus as well as the tags. Just a few should recover that 11%.

Additionally, you don't need to bring yoursec status back to 0. You can spend less and just bring it back under -2



Well i did lock his pod and scram it but that's it(i do that with most of my victims u never know they may pay you to keep there implants). and i have been fighting in low for 4 months and never took a hit like it i just want clarification as to it was a glitch or not , i may think twice next time b4 i engage a miner for no reason lol.


That's enough. Someone else killed him and you're on the KM. Congrats!



Nope the pod escaped we let him go. The someone else was my alt.
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#8 - 2014-05-09 09:56:00 UTC
CPT Bridgehouse wrote:

Nope the pod escaped we let him go. The someone else was my alt.


Hmm, just checked and yeah, you are just on the procurer KM. Not sure. It looks like they aggressed you guys too as they were killed by the gate guns, lol.
CPT Bridgehouse
TheAuthority
#9 - 2014-05-09 09:59:11 UTC
Think you may be looking at wrong KM. The proc was in a belt mining (or botting :)) we recived no aggression.
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#10 - 2014-05-09 10:13:31 UTC
Could be Eve-Kill lag as I looked at the only proc kill I saw you on there.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#11 - 2014-05-09 12:37:03 UTC
CPT Bridgehouse wrote:
Well i did lock his pod and scram it


There you go, that's your 11% right there. ANY form of agression outside of a Limited Engagement results in a heavy sec hit, and it's even heavier against pods.
CPT Bridgehouse
TheAuthority
#12 - 2014-05-09 13:58:00 UTC  |  Edited by: CPT Bridgehouse
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
CPT Bridgehouse wrote:
Well i did lock his pod and scram it


There you go, that's your 11% right there. ANY form of agression outside of a Limited Engagement results in a heavy sec hit, and it's even heavier against pods.



I have locked pods, webbed, scrammed and even killed pods in the past. none of what had as bad a standing hit than this one did.

Something doesn't seem rite. my sec status went from - 1.6 to - 2.5 btw
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#13 - 2014-05-09 14:07:41 UTC
CPT Bridgehouse wrote:
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
CPT Bridgehouse wrote:
Well i did lock his pod and scram it


There you go, that's your 11% right there. ANY form of agression outside of a Limited Engagement results in a heavy sec hit, and it's even heavier against pods.



I have locked pods, webbed, scrammed and even killed pods in the past. none of what had as bad a standing hit than this one did.

Something doesn't seem rite. my sec status went from - 1.6 to - 2.5 btw


That's a lot more than 11%. What does the sec status log say?
CPT Bridgehouse
TheAuthority
#14 - 2014-05-09 15:21:25 UTC
Miriya Zakalwe wrote:
CPT Bridgehouse wrote:
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
CPT Bridgehouse wrote:
Well i did lock his pod and scram it


There you go, that's your 11% right there. ANY form of agression outside of a Limited Engagement results in a heavy sec hit, and it's even heavier against pods.



I have locked pods, webbed, scrammed and even killed pods in the past. none of what had as bad a standing hit than this one did.

Something doesn't seem rite. my sec status went from - 1.6 to - 2.5 btw


That's a lot more than 11%. What does the sec status log say?



- 10.88 %"This penalty was incurred for attacking Donner Donmar's Capsule in ????"
- 1.087% This penalty was incurred for attacking Donner Donmar's Procurer in ????
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#15 - 2014-05-09 15:54:07 UTC
CPT Bridgehouse wrote:
- 10.88 %"This penalty was incurred for attacking Donner Donmar's Capsule in ????"


DEV Alt detected, LOL.

"I considered a career in griefing, but then realized that I would never achieve the level of tear generation that CCP manages to do each and every expansion."
Combatevolved
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-05-09 15:57:29 UTC
Maybe you don't know how sec status is calculated.

It's something with their sec and the systems value.

5 and .4 makes for a big hit against a pod.
Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-05-09 16:00:34 UTC
You have two options:

1. Petition it. They are surprisingly responsive on these kind of things.

2. Leave the purulent and flaccid warrens of hi-sec space forever and get your hands dirty.

I suggest #2.

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#18 - 2014-05-09 16:46:42 UTC
If you point the pod, you mine as well kill it. You are going to get a sec status hit regardless. Unless of course you are going for the ransom.
Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#19 - 2014-05-09 16:47:13 UTC
Agression on Pod is enough for 11% and Killright. Everything is working as intended, nothing to see here.
CPT Bridgehouse
TheAuthority
#20 - 2014-05-10 22:26:40 UTC  |  Edited by: CPT Bridgehouse
So i filed a support ticket to CCP about the issue and apparently a 56%(-1.6 to -2.5) status hit for killing a mining barge and warp scramming a pod (not killing it) in a 0.4 system is within the normal game mechanics(not that i in my 3 years playing eve have ever noticed but hey if CCP say then it must be true.)
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