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Filthy profits off the T2 Blueprint scare...

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HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-05-09 22:20:56 UTC
Anyone taking advantage of blood in the water?
I saw a T2 shield boost amp go for 12bil this morning and I just missed it as someone had a quicker internet connection.

You want to get rich? Well this is how it's done. Take a chance, play both sides against the middle and reap the rewards.

Anyone else playing the T2 BPO crazyness? It ain't real money folks. Big risks=big gains. Little risk=run of the mill daytrader.
joyous the
Slippery Penguin
#2 - 2014-05-10 07:32:31 UTC
skys fallin bro, get out while you can, mayday, the end is near.
Cavalira
Habemus
#3 - 2014-05-10 09:31:29 UTC
Not sure what you're trying to say.
Qmamoto Kansuke
Killing with pink power
Penguins with lasorz
#4 - 2014-05-10 12:44:24 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Hes trying to sell t2 bpo.LolLolLol

*Snip* Please refrain from spreading baseless rumors. ISD Ezwal.
Professional Forum Alt
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-05-10 16:30:33 UTC
I will not be crying when they are gone Twisted

This is Angelica Everstar's alt
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#6 - 2014-05-11 03:59:28 UTC
Yeah if I had 200b in trading capital I'd be flipping T2 BPOs right now.

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Zahara Cody
Imperial Corrections Service.
#7 - 2014-05-11 06:29:26 UTC
12 bil for a sba II bpo is not all that surprising... seeing a Hobgob II bpo go for 15 and a Harpy go for 7.5 is surprising. Moreso to do with uninformed sellers.

Hating is free, that's why poor people do it the best.
Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
#8 - 2014-05-13 17:20:08 UTC
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-05-13 19:45:21 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
The linked video spells out explicitly that they would like to do something to them, sometime, and that the market should be accounting for that risk. There is no rumor involved here - he says more or less exactly that in the linked video, which is a publicly available recording of a public event. It's almost literally impossible to get less "inside info" than that.

Also, as long as you want to try to argue semantics, "We would like to do something to them, sometime" and "There are no plans to remove T2 blueprints from the game" are by no means mutually exclusive.

*Snip* Removed reply to a deleted post. ISD Ezwal.

e: There's also this, which certainly is a not-that-roundabout nerf to BPOs.

Quote:
We are currently of a mind to shift invented BPCs so they have positive (or at worst 0) ME and TE figures. This a) prevents the removal of extra materials giving invention an extra-hard kick, and in particular b) prevents every invented T2 item from requiring two of the relevant T1 items (due to always rounding up materials). This will probably put all invented BPCs in the 1-5% ME/2-10% TE range, with decryptors adjusted to match. We may adjust T2 build costs upwards across the board to put the net T2 resource usage roughly where it is currently, so we don't end up nerfing the demand for T2 components. (This obviously also serves to close the gap somewhat between invention and T2 BPOs; this is not a goal here but it's an acceptable side-effect.)

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
350125GO
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-05-13 19:55:54 UTC
mynnna wrote:
The linked video spells out explicitly that they would like to do something to them, sometime, and that the market should be accounting for that risk. There is no rumor involved here - he says more or less exactly that in the linked video, which is a publicly available recording of a public event. It's almost literally impossible to get less "inside info" than that.

Also, as long as you want to try to argue semantics, "We would like to do something to them, sometime" and "There are no plans to remove T2 blueprints from the game" are by no means mutually exclusive.

Basically, your humble opinion is wrong.

e: There's also this, which certainly is a not-that-roundabout nerf to BPOs.

Quote:
We are currently of a mind to shift invented BPCs so they have positive (or at worst 0) ME and TE figures. This a) prevents the removal of extra materials giving invention an extra-hard kick, and in particular b) prevents every invented T2 item from requiring two of the relevant T1 items (due to always rounding up materials). This will probably put all invented BPCs in the 1-5% ME/2-10% TE range, with decryptors adjusted to match. We may adjust T2 build costs upwards across the board to put the net T2 resource usage roughly where it is currently, so we don't end up nerfing the demand for T2 components. (This obviously also serves to close the gap somewhat between invention and T2 BPOs; this is not a goal here but it's an acceptable side-effect.)


How is that a nerf to T2 BPOs? It's a buff to invented BPCs. Hopefully it will stop the whinging about T2 BPOs being the scourge of New Eden.

You're young, you'll adjust. I'm old, I'll get used to it.
Zor Iwaira
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-05-13 21:01:57 UTC
To keep this fair and balanced, just remember:

CCP Eterne wrote:
An FYI to cease the rumor mongering that is happening in this (and other) threads:

There are currently no plans to remove T2 BPOs from the game.


(source: CCP Dev Post)
Fishbone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-05-13 21:42:13 UTC
Personally, I am sick and tired of hearing all the whining about T2 BPO vs T2 BPC (Invention)

T2 BPO need to be either removed form the game, or seeded on the market. Plain and simple. That will solve this issue of "because I paid X amount of isk, I need to recoup the cost".

The T2 BPO's out there right now, the majority of them were passed out like candy back in the day when behind closed door deals were being done, and we all know when that time was, and who did it, and who benefited the most.

The way there were suppose to be introduced became a laughing joke. Then they resorted to "RP Auctions", yet it seemed like a select few were the ones that ever "won" these auctions. Then the general public found out that T2 BPO were being passed out. So am I complaining about how broke of a system T2 BPO's are in game, damn straight.

But that doesn't give everyone the right to constantly complain about this getting nerf, that getting nerf. All you care about is how much isk you stand to gain or lose. I for one am tired of it. Wanna risk your isk, there are plenty of Isk Doublers in Jita.
joyous the
Slippery Penguin
#13 - 2014-05-16 09:34:09 UTC
It is a renaissance of the t2 bpo. Giving it back to the poor man, by collapsing the market. The prints will change hands, a changing of the guard. Some will panic sell. For a while things may be "cheap". But in the long run, in eve, where everyone lives forever, and everyone gets rich, those that end up with them become the new guard, and the kings of the new bubble.
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2014-05-16 11:14:23 UTC
Zor Iwaira wrote:
To keep this fair and balanced, just remember:

CCP Eterne wrote:
An FYI to cease the rumor mongering that is happening in this (and other) threads:

There are currently no plans to remove T2 BPOs from the game.


(source: CCP Dev Post)

that post got edited

"There are currently no immediate plans to remove T2 BPOs from the game."

figuring out why eterne had to go back and add that word is left as an exercise for the reader
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#15 - 2014-05-18 01:17:26 UTC
The dirty speculator that I am here is my prediction with the invention changes coming down the pipe.

Invention Base ME (& PE ??) goes from -4 to 0. To compensate for this change, the build requirements of all T2 items is increased. Prices remain similar but the gap between invention and T2 BPOs shrinks dramatically.

T2 BPO owners are still marginally price competitive but until CCP revamps the invention UI and install process, T2 BPO will win out majorly in the isk/effort category.

It is a game of Hot Potato!
HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-05-18 01:27:38 UTC
Sir SmashAlot wrote:
The dirty speculator that I am here is my prediction with the invention changes coming down the pipe.

Invention Base ME (& PE ??) goes from -4 to 0. To compensate for this change, the build requirements of all T2 items is increased. Prices remain similar but the gap between invention and T2 BPOs shrinks dramatically.

T2 BPO owners are still marginally price competitive but until CCP revamps the invention UI and install process, T2 BPO will win out majorly in the isk/effort category.

It is a game of Hot Potato!


Well said. How many more years will I be able to get away with pumping out copies if & when more significant changes occur.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#17 - 2014-05-19 14:09:51 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4613373#post4613373

CCP Greyscale wrote:
We would prefer to give a longer definite warning before changes to T2 BPOs themselves. I'm not ruling out something forcing our hand, but in the absence of that we're hoping not to have to tackle them head-on in Crius.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
T2 BPOs are going to stay the same forever so you should buy as many as you can right now.

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HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-05-22 06:35:42 UTC
Actually this has been more disappointing than I had anticipated. I only got a really good deal on ONE T2 bpo before prices seemed to float right back to where they were.

That didn't last as long as I'd hoped.Sad
Far Wanderer
ACGM Acquisitions
#19 - 2014-05-22 07:07:02 UTC
HeXxploiT wrote:
Actually this has been more disappointing than I had anticipated. I only got a really good deal on ONE T2 bpo before prices seemed to float right back to where they were.

That didn't last as long as I'd hoped.Sad
That's one more good deal than I got, so from where I'm sitting you're in the lead.

I really am wasting my breath though, when you can avoid questions from Hexxx and RAW23 like that you must have some seriously devoted investors. --Elizabeth Norn
Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2014-05-22 07:09:24 UTC
made about 200bill profit on that bpo scare. thanks a lot goons. <3
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