Player Features and Ideas Discussion

As an afterthought, I searched the online forums and found Mara Rinn's post (The CSM minutes are out!) mentioning the term market hangar for a pos, though from the description her pos market hangar is used to compete with nul npc stations.

So, I was thinking of how to give wormholers pseudo-market access without actually plopping a station in each wormhole. How about a pos module that adds a Market Hangar to the tower. Players can only buy/sell items via the market window while in the pos bubble of a pos anchored in a wormhole.

Corporation items placed in the hangar can then be purchased from the corporation sell orders (and automatically moved to your cargohold or personal hangar). Items you want to sell (to corp buy orders) are sold from your cargohold or your personal hangar. Ten orders is the limit per market hangar. Click on the market window while in the pos to see the Pos Market Hangar items listed for that pos.

Of course, corporation leadership can set custom prices, but an option to show regional price from a highsec market hub is also needed. Otherwise, using eve-central.com to obtain prices is the fallback pricing method.

Having completely fitted ships available to purchase from corp while seller/corp leadership/owner is offline does not currently exist. Thus, there is always a need for an online someone with hangar access, and skills to fly the ship to central/trade pos for the transfer to happen. Trust is a huge part of wormhole life, but burnout from micro-management of simple things like this makes living in wormholes unnecessarily horrible.

I don't really see the point of this. It would be very complicated mechanics for very little use, as I don't think many corps in WH would basically sell items to themselves. And this shouldn't even be allowed at all in k-space.

Perfect location for selling illegal drugs to corpies, since the combat boosters (except synth boosters) are illegal in high sec. The "off the grid" aspect of the market hangar fits well with the dark side of eve; drugs and other illegal activities need to be accessible corp-wide but not listed on regional markets.

Why not add buildings for these illegal transactions? Strip club, narcotics warehouse, etc. Finally a place to put your strippers and put your feet up; here is an example of what it may look like. http://eve.aeonoftime.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/2007-05-18_1_The_Thiefs_Headquarters.jpg

this would have a certain niche use - not sure if it would be worth it though, unless there were multiple allied corps in a WH (C5/C6)

This seems to only complicate in-corp trade, particularly through any sort of '10 order' limitations. Considering noone from out of corp is going to be coming into your wormhole poses and accessing anything, I think that this would be a pointless feature, particularly when you want to limit the value of your assetts in wormholespace at any given time. A much better solution that can be undertaken by a wormhole corp is to provide an ordering/delivery service, where one player makes a list of items they desire, provides them to the service provider, who then picks them up from highsec and hauls them in, for a fee.

TL;DR, idea that will serve little use, and see even less.

How can you be so sure? I am not aware of a prior attempt by CCP to add a pseudo-market functionality to wormhole pos's. I say give the kids a new toy and let them figure out the best way to play with it.

Have them in low sec too, for selling any sort of black market goods. They should be separate from the regional market though, only viewable when docked.

There is a need for this. Atleast in a wormhole. If you look at a w-space corp from a leader-perpective, this just simplifies so many things. Not only that, but having hulls+fittings in your market will also allow you to react accordingly to - for example- a T1 cruiser-gang running into your door.

By the same logic, you could comfortably remove the market from all nullsec-stations and no one would care cause a station is usually inhabited by a certain corp/alliance to start with. They should really make moves to improve POSes towards station-performance (repairing burnt-out modules, option to upgrade your med clone level, contracts/market for example)

And please no *but sleepers/wormholes are unknown/dangerous* BS, there is nothing unknown about 4:30 to run four escalation waves or moros+orca will collapse a hole.

Bring destructible stations of some sort to W-space. Problem solved and much pew pew content created in the process.

The obvious answer here is that people were never actually intended to live in wspace in the first place, and the hardships of doing so are implicit in its design. Every single change that make dwelling in Wspace easier and more predictable is another change that destroys the very essence of wspace. It's not an accident that the API endpoints were changed you know. CCP doesn't WANT wspace living to be convenient or easy because it's overall intent is and always has been space that's phenomenally hard or impossible to "own" or "fortify" Current wspace residents are anomalies the system was never designed for and should not be catered to as the choice to take up residence in wspace should always be undertaken with the assumption that it is a place you were never meant to live, that it's going to be a pain to do, and that you aren't going to enjoy even a slice of the infrastructure of k-space. That's an intentional and necessary part of wormhole play. The more infrastructure you add to wspace, the more it just becomes kspace 2.0

I've said this before, but a better option would be the removal of all identity information about wormholes entirely, including mass limits, lifetime, etc. and a matching increase in payouts for blue stuff. Wormhole collapse should be a constant fear, not an easily mitigated and knowable factor that I can map for my whole corp with a little extra software and web browsing.