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What kind of world would Eve be without internet anonymity?

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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#181 - 2014-05-09 22:37:36 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:

most delivery people turn up with some electronic doodar and as long as there's a squiggle, it's fine.


LOL not out here, you sign in ink. Twice.

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
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Do you have any idea how much body armor costs? If they want me that bad then they've earned it.


About $300 for the plates. Still cheaper than hiring hitmen. The 'cheap' rate on those is about 25k dollars a head.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#182 - 2014-05-09 22:41:26 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:

most delivery people turn up with some electronic doodar and as long as there's a squiggle, it's fine.


LOL not out here, you sign in ink. Twice.


Do you live in the 80s?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#183 - 2014-05-09 22:45:24 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Do you live in the 80s?


Government work.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#184 - 2014-05-09 22:46:17 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Do you live in the 80s?


Government work.


I'm guessing the Mennonite government?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#185 - 2014-05-09 23:11:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
And so we come back to the point of some people having difficulty separating fantasy from reality. Smile

So the "most likely result" is going to be home invasion and car bombings? Big smileBig smileBig smile

Just how many times to you think the socially dysfunctional misfit is going to get away with committing major crimes in reality?

Once? Twice?

And then go to jail for extremely long periods of time, possibly permanently.

But that's okay, they'll be secure in the knowledge that they served justice on the bastard that blew up their hauler.

He certainly had it coming right?

It's starting to look like the only maladjusted players in the community are solidly rooted in the less aggressive sectors of EVE game play. Blink

And it never occurs to you that if the aggressive combat pilots and scammers were as maladjusted in reality as you claim, they would be the ones knocking on your door when you least expect it, or defrauding your bank account, or putting a bomb in your family car.

Fortunately, we do have reality to fall back on, where such nonsense (with rare exception) isn't actually the case.

Fortunately for you that is. Big smile

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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#186 - 2014-05-09 23:16:01 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

I'm guessing the Mennonite government?


You do know that the US government has buildings literally collapsing under the weight of the paperwork, right?

The Seneca Nation of Indians is positively modern by comparison, but you still have to sign legibly in ink. Twice.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#187 - 2014-05-09 23:47:50 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:

And it never occurs to you that if the aggressive combat pilots and scammers were as maladjusted in reality as you claim, they would be the ones knocking on your door when you least expect it, or defrauding your bank account, or putting a bomb in your family car.

Fortunately, we do have reality to fall back on, where such nonsense (with rare exception) isn't actually the case.

Fortunately for you that is. Big smile


Look up Youngstown, Ohio, sometime. I'm there atm.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#188 - 2014-05-09 23:54:04 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:


It's starting to look like the only maladjusted players in the community are solidly rooted in the less aggressive sectors of EVE game play. Blink


Hell, I've known that since I played UO. The guys who "just want to be left alone" were the ones spewing out the vile language and death threats. So, pretty much since the dawn of MMOs.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#189 - 2014-05-10 00:59:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Chopper Rollins
Hevymetal wrote:
With all the crazy laws being passed in various countries....


What.

Edit: "A lot of people are saying that a lot of the laws being passed in various countries are crazy."
There, up to Fox News standards for journalism.

Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#190 - 2014-05-12 00:58:00 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
And so we come back to the point of some people having difficulty separating fantasy from reality. Smile



Specious argument.

What joy would there be in fantasy tears?
Sean Sinak
Doomheim
#191 - 2014-05-12 01:11:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Sean Sinak
good thing i am already AMARRican

also i play eve saddly like how i am in life, i am to nice T.T

*aka i would never break a deal*
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#192 - 2014-05-12 05:34:42 UTC
People already know the names of a good many goons. We honestly dont care, its only a game.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#193 - 2014-05-12 05:44:57 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:

most delivery people turn up with some electronic doodar and as long as there's a squiggle, it's fine.


LOL not out here, you sign in ink. Twice.

i have no idea how those e-signature things are legal i've never been able to sign one with anything approaching my handwriting
Josef Djugashvilis
#194 - 2014-05-12 06:27:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Hevymetal wrote:
With all the crazy laws being passed in various countries. What would the ramifications be if noone's real identity could remain hidden? Kinda like China already, but to a greater extent.

Would most Eve players remain sadistic psychos or would their attitudes and playstyles change? Would you still gank and pod that helpless miner knowing he could very well track you down in real life?

How much of a difference would it make in the Eve universe knowing (PlayerX) is really John Doe? How many players would continue to actually play? Would it mean the death of Eve as we know it or merely an evolution to a nicer universe?


Folk might be anonymous to computer idiots like my good self. When I asked my daughter, (she has an Msc in Computer Science) about this, she said it foolish for the vast majority of internet users to think that it was hard to find out who they are and where they are.

This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis
#195 - 2014-05-12 07:06:53 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Highsec people wouldn't be able to call for the death or violent acts against others they don't like on the forums.


Hey, leave Mittens alone.

He did the decent thing and apologized.

End of the matter.

This is not a signature.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#196 - 2014-05-12 07:35:52 UTC
There are loads of problems that could come out of being forced to use your real life identity in this game (or any game), and it has nothing to do with sociopathic carebear morons who think that they are entitled to harass people IRL for killing their hulks.

Some people don't wish to have their real life identities connected to this game. They might have jobs where such a connection would be unfavorable. For example, your boss might not take kindly to you playing vidya games on your own time because if you do you're obviously playing them in the office instead of working. A less ignorant supervisor might not be happy if they find out that you play an MMO where lies, treachery and deceit are accepted norms, no matter how much you insist that all you do is mine asteroids. Worse if you work for a financial institution or are a public servant or intend to run for public office.

There's also transgender people who have not completed the process for a legal name change. The credit card they have on file is still under their original name, and such a thing would risk outing them (just google 'trans outing' if you aren't aware of how dangerous that is)

And some people just don't want to reveal their real life identities to strangers on the Internet. That alone should be a good enough reason to stop wanting to strip anonymity from EVE.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#197 - 2014-05-12 08:59:26 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Hevymetal wrote:
With all the crazy laws being passed in various countries. What would the ramifications be if noone's real identity could remain hidden? Kinda like China already, but to a greater extent.

Would most Eve players remain sadistic psychos or would their attitudes and playstyles change? Would you still gank and pod that helpless miner knowing he could very well track you down in real life?

How much of a difference would it make in the Eve universe knowing (PlayerX) is really John Doe? How many players would continue to actually play? Would it mean the death of Eve as we know it or merely an evolution to a nicer universe?


Folk might be anonymous to computer idiots like my good self. When I asked my daughter, (she has an Msc in Computer Science) about this, she said it foolish for the vast majority of internet users to think that it was hard to find out who they are and where they are.

Most people on the internet are fairly anonymous to most other people on the internet. Your daughter is likely making a much more restrictive statement (e.g. it's foolish for internet users to think it's hard for the government to find out who and where they are).

It's not being a computer idiot or whatnot, it's the fact that you don't actually have access to enough personally identifying information about me.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#198 - 2014-05-12 09:09:54 UTC
Miichael Epic wrote:
Honestly? A lot of these sick twisted internet bad asses wouldn't play anymore. They'd be too scared that they'd be tracked down in real life by real legit real life bad asses.

These idiots who gank miners and mobile depots / tractor units and tell you mm delicious tears, htfu and call you carebear and ect wouldn't do that anymore because you could very well show up at their door and go Jay & Silent Bob on their asses.

*knock knock knock*

*door opens*

You: Excuse me sir, are you James 315 in the EVE Universe?

Him: Um, yes...why?

*ass whipping proceeds*

Case and point.


So you're the kind of person that would violently assault someone for what they did in a video game?

Just a little FYI: I don't think you get to call anyone "twisted", let alone an "internet bad ass".

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#199 - 2014-05-12 09:12:51 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Mike Azariah wrote:
You guys are aware of the fact that there is a small subset of us who do have our names out there. Anonymity was sacrificed for the purposes of the CSM Election

Total things that have happened to me because of this.

0

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Yeah that's wonderful for you but you also agreed to it.
I would unsubscribe the instant this game lost anonymity, and if CCP released our private information without our consent you can guarantee they'd have major legal troubles on their hands.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Azurius Dante
Banana Corp
#200 - 2014-05-13 09:36:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Azurius Dante
Hevymetal wrote:
With all the crazy laws being passed in various countries. What would the ramifications be if noone's real identity could remain hidden? Kinda like China already, but to a greater extent.

Would most Eve players remain sadistic psychos or would their attitudes and playstyles change? Would you still gank and pod that helpless miner knowing he could very well track you down in real life?

How much of a difference would it make in the Eve universe knowing (PlayerX) is really John Doe? How many players would continue to actually play? Would it mean the death of Eve as we know it or merely an evolution to a nicer universe?


It wouldn't make a blind difference to how I play the game because well... it's a game?

If you get offended by losing pixels, you should probably go and see a shrink.

People really need to learn how to separate the two things -.-