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What is the definition of "nerf"

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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#1 - 2014-05-09 20:01:21 UTC
In multiplayer video games, many players cheer/bemoan the fact that developers often "nerf" certain things.

Then the true neckbeards move in, display their pedantic plumage, and spend 8 pages talking about what it means to actually "nerf" a thing.

So, can anyone agree on what the definition of a "nerf" is? Does it only apply to specific modules, or can it apply to whole ships or whole playstyles? Do stats or skills need to change, or does that not matter? Do any changes need to affect the specific thing that is being nerfed, or is elevating a competing thing a nerf to another?

The concrete example that got so many bacon-stripped drawers in a twist was the Gecko drone, which was given to players in an overly buffed state with the expectation that its stats would come back down to earth within a month, and whether or not the loss of Gecko DPS in a month is a nerf. . . . but any other example works too.

What is a nerf?

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2014-05-09 20:02:44 UTC
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:


What is a nerf?


You're welcome

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#3 - 2014-05-09 20:09:59 UTC
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:

What is a nerf?


Its Nerf or Nuthin'

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#4 - 2014-05-09 20:18:09 UTC
People really are this hopeless, aren't they? CCP hands us a gift on a silver platter, a gift they didn't have to give, and all people can do is ***** about how the plate isn't designed to their standards.

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Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-05-09 20:19:25 UTC
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:

Then the true neckbeards move in, display their pedantic plumage, and spend 8 pages talking about what it means to actually "nerf" a thing.


So, now the definition of "neckbeard" has moved from "bitter involuntarily celibate misogynist douchebag with no social life whatsoever" to "person who wants you to shut the hell up and adapt/overcome when you throw infantile tantrums about rebalancing efforts", simply because you said so?

Get back in your cage. I award you zero points, and may the gods have mercy on your soul.

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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#6 - 2014-05-09 20:20:31 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:

Then the true neckbeards move in, display their pedantic plumage, and spend 8 pages talking about what it means to actually "nerf" a thing.


So, now the definition of "neckbeard" has moved from "bitter involuntarily celibate misogynist douchebag with no social life whatsoever" to "person who wants you to shut the hell up and adapt/overcome when you throw infantile tantrums about rebalancing efforts", simply because you said so?

Get back in your cage. I award you zero points, and may the gods have mercy on your soul.


pretty good point, actually: what is the definition of "neckbeard," and is it a derogatory term or a term of endearment?

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-05-09 20:20:35 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
People really are this hopeless, aren't they? CCP hands us a gift on a silver platter, a gift they didn't have to give, and all people can do is ***** about how the plate isn't designed to their standards.

The argument that started this has nothing to do with being dissatisfied, but rather is a product of hard heads and semantics. I like the gecko. Doesn't change the fact that it is getting weaker in under a month.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#8 - 2014-05-09 20:22:11 UTC
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:

Then the true neckbeards move in, display their pedantic plumage, and spend 8 pages talking about what it means to actually "nerf" a thing.


So, now the definition of "neckbeard" has moved from "bitter involuntarily celibate misogynist douchebag with no social life whatsoever" to "person who wants you to shut the hell up and adapt/overcome when you throw infantile tantrums about rebalancing efforts", simply because you said so?

Get back in your cage. I award you zero points, and may the gods have mercy on your soul.


pretty good point, actually: what is the definition of "neckbeard," and is it a derogatory term or a term of endearment?


That depends on if they share their Cheetos or not.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Dominus Tempus
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2014-05-09 20:22:28 UTC
Did you really need to take the crap from the Gecko thread and make it into its own?
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#10 - 2014-05-09 20:24:40 UTC
Anything that does not benefit me is a nerf.
Anything that benefits a playstyle I don't entertain is a nerf.
Anything that benefits me is a stealth nerf because it's not boosting me enough.
Special for eve: Anything that may hypothetically benefit a goon or was in some way connected or even proposed is a nerf in general and a nerf to high-sec specifically.
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-05-09 20:25:06 UTC
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:

Then the true neckbeards move in, display their pedantic plumage, and spend 8 pages talking about what it means to actually "nerf" a thing.


So, now the definition of "neckbeard" has moved from "bitter involuntarily celibate misogynist douchebag with no social life whatsoever" to "person who wants you to shut the hell up and adapt/overcome when you throw infantile tantrums about rebalancing efforts", simply because you said so?

Get back in your cage. I award you zero points, and may the gods have mercy on your soul.


pretty good point, actually: what is the definition of "neckbeard," and is it a derogatory term or a term of endearment?


It's VERY derogatory, considering those sadsacks are the dregs of nerd culture and the reason why women tend to stay far, far away from video games.
There's a few games I'd like to get my girlfriend into, but I don't because I know she'd be subjected to some of the worst harassment the internet has to offer, just because she's a female.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-05-09 20:25:56 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
I wish I had never posted in that thread. Or the other one.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Verfanny
Brave Empire Inc.
Brave United
#13 - 2014-05-09 20:28:27 UTC
Something that is bad for me.
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-05-09 20:34:59 UTC
Where is ISD Ezwal when you need him?

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-05-09 20:43:07 UTC
NERF makes toys, like a water pistol, that are toy versions of real life things that could be dangerous. I'd rather get hit with a NERF bat than a real bat, for example (not sure why I picked that example). So nerfing something just means taking something that does something substantial and turning it into an inconsequential thing. I don't know if that's what you were asking..

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2014-05-09 20:47:28 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
People really are this hopeless, aren't they? CCP hands us a gift on a silver platter, a gift they didn't have to give, and all people can do is ***** about how the plate isn't designed to their standards.


I sometimes think the EVE community is filled with some of the most entitled brats in existence. I've stopped being surprised each time someone dares making demands or goes on about how they have a bunch of rights because they pay for a subscription. It's sickening to be honest.

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Nakami Saans
Conclave of Independent Pilots
#17 - 2014-05-09 21:02:38 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:

What is a nerf?


Its Nerf or Nuthin'

http://www.nerfelite.co.uk/


I wish nerf was this advanced when i was a kid

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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#18 - 2014-05-09 21:29:37 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I wish I had never posted in that thread. Or the other one.


Or this one?

Twisted

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#19 - 2014-05-09 22:01:20 UTC
I have a nerf something or other gun that holds about 10 darts and I bring it out when the co-workers get unruly.





What was the question again?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2014-05-09 22:02:04 UTC
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I wish I had never posted in that thread. Or the other one.


Or this one?

Twisted

This one's fine.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

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