EVE General Discussion

You do know that the best income from missions involves no looting right?

This will have no impact at all to mission runners who run missions effectively.

Confirmed, you think Military Strategists arent human

Thats an interesting and completely wierd point of view.

You can know everything in the universe, if you don't have the skills already trained it will effect you.

You can know everything in the universe and if you don't enjoy blitzing missions it will effect you.

If you are running mining bots it will positively effect you.

Yes, a change that helps bots, hurts noobs and people who play the game for fun, and will increase PLEX prices thereby effecting everyone.


Yeah, sounds like another CCP **** move to me. Check eve-offline.net for mor info on CCP **** moves.

The attraction of any game lies in discovering the complex methods of solving problems.

And picking on the weak, for the mentally disturbed. But leaving bully fantasies to one side for a moment, a game is a game because it presents problems and ways to solve them.

Having read a significant part of this thread, the biggest "problem" in Eve just now seems to be the entrenched power of the large alliances in NullSec. It seems to be a problem, because it isn't changing. It isn't chaining because.....

So why isn't this situation changing?

Why are the power brokers in NullSec so secure in their tenure?

Why is life in NullSec one of obedience to established powers?

I don't know, but it does seem weird that these people are so powerful, for so long, in a game where changing circumstances are supposed to present new problems to be solved.

It is also highly unrealistic. If four Empires exist, dominated by established cultures of law and order, why would they allow childish alliances to remain secure in such vast expanses of space?

A possible way to bring back the challenge for the Nullbears would be for the Empires to begin demonstrating imperial mandates.

For example, it would be both realistic and interesting if the major empires started recruiting expeditionary forces to go and "clear" certain neighbouring null sec regions. Such expeditions would be temporary, for the most part, and the aim would be to stop essentially lawless and barbarian organisations to flourish nearby. Because that is what Empires do. It is sort of their business model.

If the major empires were to begin these "clearance" missions into null sec, it would give the high sec bears a way of engaging in fleet war without becoming the cattle of the null bear elite.

It would also force the Nullbears to fight for their space, instead of inheriting it from groups of null bears they have successfully sucked up to. As all we hear from the null bears are that they live to fight, they should embrace the cause.

If the Gallente Empire made a call to clear out an alliance of null bears from a given region of space, I would jump at that chance.

Not because I think Nullbears are cowards who prey on the weak and who think being territorial about digital space is good fun. Rather, I want to share the joy of problem solving, as it forms the basis of all games.

The null bear elite have had their day in the sun, and they are boring the pants of the rest of us. The back story of eve is paralysed, and the empires are not acting as empires should.

Please consider, nothing is as absurd as the notion that the goons are more powerful than the Gallente. Or the Ammar. Or any backstory empire, whose story covers thousands of generations.

Let the Empires man up, and make life interesting in Null sec.

What you say is true, but for the fact is that vast majority of null sec anom runners don't loot.
And most mission runners do loot in high sec.

Guess the MTU was to popular a module, and the tractor beam bonus of the Marauder just became even more useless.

Military strategists of modern, civilized nations go to extreme lengths to focus on military/combatant targets and to limit civilian casualties. As such, including them in your list didn't really support your point to begin with. When they "target the weak," it is not done simply "for the lulz," so I suggest you quit with the asinine comparisons.

Of course, there are some military strategists in the world who do take delight in causing harm to the weak, and I would most definitely classify them as mentally disturbed. But this quality is not unique to these select military strategists; as any observation of the human condition will tell you that there are those among us in all walks of life who are less than stable mentally. EVE players are no exception to this.

Of course, you were the one who attempted to rationalize behavior as acceptable by equating the motives behind it with that of beasts, so I guess we can draw some conclusions as to your frame of reference for what constitutes normal and stable behavior.

Mission loot and bounties are good and all for entry lvl missioning but once you stop going after the loot and just focus on lp you tend to make more so the change wont really hurt missioning much. It will just make it easier for people to ween them selves off the loot teets and discover the deliciousness of lp.