Warfare & Tactics

So, if I understand correctly, stealth bombers can shoot bombs that do ridiculous damage in a ridiculous radius.

They can warp cloaked so they can catch you with your pants dropped every time.

So, is there a good reason for a large alliance NOT to get a sufficiently large amount of them in a fleet and start Alpha striking every subcap fleet ever?

**** better tell our miliraty director about the ~~~~destructive~~~~ power of bombs

also you're dumb. bombs have a 2min+ refire time and you can carry like 2 in your ship. Ask Morsus Mihi about bomb effectiveness please

Hey bro I'm asking a legitimate question because I started playing two months ago.

People are using stealth bombers like that but it´s hard to do, 1 mistake and all of the bombers might die. Also, bombs have 15km radius.

What they are saying is, U can carry max 3 bombs per ship, one loaded and 2 in cargo. And once u decloak and launch your bomb, your only survival lies in warping away asap. coz once someone locks you, u are dead.

Also bombs need to be launched in a straight line. And they have resists to their own damage only. i.e, if u launch, say 5 kinetic bombs followed by 5 EM bombs, they em bombs will have resists only to em and so the kin bombs will destroy them as well. And since each racial bomber has bonus to its own racial damage, fitting other bombs are not in general use. may be in specific situations but usually fleets don't prefer them.

I remember reading a post about 100 or so mackinaws ice mining for an alliance mining op got wiped out by a fleet of bombers. too lazy to search for it now.. :)

7 is the max you can use at once. However, this doesn't stop you using multiple 'squads'.

Bombs are not OP and can be used to good effect sometimes but never all the time.

Each bomber has a "bonus damage" type it does. using off-bomb types from your bomber is about 2k less damage but preferable to the alternative.

- Bombs hit anything in range.
- Bombs will hit other bombs before those other bombs explode.
- Bombs have HP - high resists to their own damage type, NONE to the other damage types.

This limits how many bombs can successfully be deployed against a fleet per wave of bombers.

- 8k "full damage" is how much a ship bonus "right type" bomb will do.
- Just 2 mill EHP "low resist" on a super, would require 250 bombs to hit it.

That is over 30 waves of bombers to avoid blowing up your own bombs, preventing that kill.

That's a hell of a lot of pilots and timing involved - to put it in perspective:

- 30km is the travel distance before "boom"
- 3km/s is how fast bombs travel.

30km / 3km = 10 seconds.

"just" 30 waves * 10 seconds = 300 seconds or 5 minutes to get all those bombs on the target if "perfectly" launched in sequence (and 30 is "less than" the wave count - I rounded down how many waves).

over 5 minutes is a lot of repair and "other stuff" happening to try and get all those bombs to the target - outside of simply coordinating that many bombers deploying bombs with such high precision.

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Yes they sound cool and hugely powerful but you can see that they are far from overpowering when you start adding up their limitations.

Alright, hanks to everyone who answered seriously!

Nothing overpowered here. Bomber wings are already used in most big fights in 0.0

bombers are a very effective tool in null sec. other that they get you through low safely hehe. bomber wings have wiped out whole bs fleets were the fc decided to cluster his ships. and void bombs are frigin nasty with 1800gj drain hmmmm what could they be used to mess up. simple fact is every ship has a key role and every ship has a counter its in how you set up your fleet , your fc , and your ability to follow orders and not panic under fire.