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[PVE] Minmatar ship help
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Alagos Pahineh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-05-09 09:13:28 UTC
I need a bit of a help regarding Minmatar ships in pve. I've been playing about with a Imperial Navy Slicer and really love its speed, agility and damage projection. However, trying to find a Minmatar alternative has been a pain in the ass. Why a minmatar alternative you ask? I hate the idea of flying an amarr ship as a minmatar character and I refuse to believe that they're just straight inferior to the Amarr. There has to be something that can melt stuff just as fast in this price range and I'm asking you, fellow forum warriors, to help me out here.
Kaea Astridsson
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#2 - 2014-05-09 09:26:47 UTC
Imperial Navy Slicer and PvE? I don't follow. Guessing you're looking for L1 ships then - Breacher works, nice active tank and can hit far with missiles. I worked with my trusty Rifter for most L1 I ran when I started out first and it went fine.

With the new falloff bonus to the Rifter I'm guessing you can project out to ~16km with T2s + Barrage and maybe a falloff rig.

Get on Comms, or die typing.
Alagos Pahineh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-05-09 09:54:20 UTC
Kaea Astridsson wrote:
Imperial Navy Slicer and PvE? I don't follow.


I'm thinking of:

1. Sisters Arc (lots of warping around and medium range engagements)
2. lvl 1 and 2 mission blitzing (frankly I find a cruiser an overkill for lvl 2 and destroyers are equal to or in some cases inferior to Slicer)
3. high sec combat sites (not that I do many of them, but still)
Odithia
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-05-09 10:07:02 UTC
Nothing exactly similar but have a look at Firetrail, Damiel or Claw.
Kaea Astridsson
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#5 - 2014-05-09 10:19:42 UTC
Not saying it's the optimal solution, but arty Jag should be able to run most of that, not sure the last SoE Arc mission but I've read Jag is good running combat sites in Matari Hi-sec space. Never blitzed L1s or L2s so cannot speak with any authority there.

Fully fitted shouldn't cost more than 40m, should have the speed and agility and be able to hit pretty damn far with artillery.

Get on Comms, or die typing.
Deerin
East Trading Co Ltd
#6 - 2014-05-09 12:16:49 UTC
What about breacher? It is fast agile, has even better damage projection than slicer when using LML's. You can fit a decent shield tank on it, which is a better choice when fighting against angels.
Quinten Sarn
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-05-09 12:55:02 UTC
you're looking for a frigate with equal damage and damage projection as the slicer. the thing is, the slicer is known for its good damage and projection. i think this is a case of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. minmatar ships that can do as well as the slicer in terms of damage at range would be the destroyers: the thrasher and the talwar. arty trashers an push out 300 dps at 20k with a fit focussed on DPS, talwars can do 180-230 @ 50k.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#8 - 2014-05-09 13:07:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
I think this fit might suit what you're looking for. It's an Arty Firetail with an active tank. It's about 50m isk and with max skills, it has 67 CPU and plenty of power grid to do whatever you want with the two extra mid slots. I played around with some passive resist mods, active resist, tracking computer, cap booster. Everything seems to fit reasonably comfortably so it's basically whatever you want to do with it.

[Republic Fleet Firetail, PvE]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

1MN Afterburner II
Dread Guristas Small Shield Booster
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

280mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP S
[empty high slot]

Small Projectile Locus Coordinator II
Small Projectile Locus Coordinator II
Small Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I

Oh god.
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-05-10 09:29:25 UTC
Personally I like a MWD Auto Wolf.
Damage projection isn't all that important in PvE if your ship can be there in 5 seconds. Blink