EVE General Discussion

I doubt ccp just pulled numbers out of their ass seeing as how they have access to how much isk is earned/destroyed on an average day they probably took that number and added a % to it.

Oddly enough, it tends to be those that need rules are the ones talking about how society needs the rules to help everyone else.

Those that don't need rules, also don't want rules.

“I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.” - Robert Heinlein

Agreed, though Heinlein would really fit into the former rather than latter category, being as how he was a big one for capital punishment and moral exactitude. It did help (certainly in regard to that quote) that Military style justice had rules he very strongly agreed with.

“The important thing is moral choice. Evil has to exist along with good, in order that moral choice may operate. Life is sustained by the grinding opposition of moral entities.”
― Anthony Burgess, A Clockwork Orange

In essence, if there is no one left to choose to be evil, then good has nothing to define itself by and therefore has no power. Within a short space of time the "good" majority have transmuted into an absolute, and anything that deviates is anathema and is destroyed with vigour.

At that point, it has completed its transformation into evil once more.

only if the arbitrary numbers that need to be reached have any relation to one another, of which there is 0 evidence.

average solo miner can pull about 3k+ / minute.

Do you know how completely trivial it would be to update a "totals" table every time a miner laser cycle ends, an npc bounty is paid out, a job is started/completed or a ship is destroyed?

About 5 lines of code for each of the first 3 events, and maybe 20 or 30 lines of code to calculate the total isk desyroted by the 4th event.

That and the 3 minutes it took to set up a new database table that has the totals.

I never suggested who is unwelcome. I do suggest that, and this is sacred to the "PVP community", that there are people who should consider whether or not they can handle the game, be they carebear or not. That would be a personal matter but clearly there are avenues where such behavioral issues can grow (or "fester" would be a better word) and then when something happens out comes the evil in the forms of raging, meltdowns, etc. Then someone basks or "drinks" the tears and says "well, maybe they have a mental disorder" but totally miss the point that if their victim had a disorder, what does that make them, the one who drove that person over the side? Might as well go "park in handicapped spaces to watch handicapped people make handicapped faces" while we are at it.


But the knife cuts both ways, and I suppose the desire would be to see the ganker rage when he don't get his kill and show the same childish sense of entitlement that is claimed of every carebear. But having done that a few times, even though I did not get killed, it was not an enjoyable experience. Just being around or dealing with someone exhibiting (not necessarily having) mental dysfunction never struck me as entertainment. But maybe I'm just becoming an old hippie or something.

if something doesn't make you look THEBEST it is plain wrong

I shed 1 tear for every roid I pop.

HURR ganking...i've done it.
Whenever there's a drive to bash miners i undock my Megathron with Miner IIs on it, named (My Main's Name)'s Hulk.
Sit at a belt.
Wave to all the slowkids that arrive.
Lots of really good PVPers gank miners for lols and prize transports as kills.
The dedicated gankers, though, have the most limited understanding of the game in general and mining in particular. They also lack in sense of humor.

Edit: Yeah ethics is a very complex matter only for the brainiest technocrats to ever think about or employ, right?
WRONG. Ethics and morality are understood by children and confounded by debating failures.