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Hangar access privileges, re: Gecko-class superheavy drones

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1 - 2014-05-08 17:33:55 UTC
Pilots;

I recently discovered a team of Guristas personnel in one of my hangars, servicing a gift of Gecko-class superheavy drones, and then learned that these have been distributed widely among capsuleers. What in the maker's name is going on here? I know that gifts from institutions are often routed through hangar security without so much as a peep, but every time it makes me twitch and results in a good twenty or thirty personnel being removed from security duty.

Have any of you heard anything about this? Is it-- some sort of recruitment drive? A demonstration of wealth to impress us?

I'm-- just a bit confused, and a bit concerned.

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Tahrmal Nalthkh
Disciples of Ston
#2 - 2014-05-08 17:39:47 UTC
I would say there is violent intent of some kind behind this move. None of the three pilots of DSTON have discovered any such weapons in our hangars. They must be aware that we would never use them.

Dr. Tahrmal Nalthkh CEO, DSTON Rescue Pilot

Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#3 - 2014-05-08 17:41:11 UTC
I adore geckos! Tiny little quick sneaky things... where is it!?

What is that?

No. No, sweetie, that is not a gecko.

That is a sell order.
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#4 - 2014-05-08 17:48:59 UTC
There's an old saying that has a number of variations, all involving the base form of "Don't look a gift X in the Y". I think my favorite combination over the years was "Dominix" and "drone bay".

I think you are overthinking the issue. Given the Guristas' known distaste for capsuleers, I find it rather unlikely they would go through the trouble of giving every capsuleer with an active license a gift of such value. Even more unlikely that they'd have access to a full list of said capsuleers. It seems more likely that a large cache of the drones was recovered by CONCORD or one of the Four, and then subsequently distributed among the capsuleer population.

In any case, I look forward to getting some time to tinker with the things. If they're anything like the modified Dragonfly fighters that a quick glance suggests they are, they might be good for a joyride or two. Or more.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#5 - 2014-05-08 18:01:17 UTC
Wait-- these are piloted?

I'm going to have to recall the personnel that were discovered. Fortunately, the Watch hasn't had them long. Hm.

I suppose I'll have to have my ground crews do a work-up of these drones, and then see how they actually perform. I'd been thinking to mothball them in a corner of the hangar for a while, but....

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Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#6 - 2014-05-08 18:04:10 UTC
It is a Gurista bribe. The tech looks good but I recommend examining the things end to end for malicious intent. Trust it as much as you would a Gurista soldier on board your ship.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-05-08 18:29:52 UTC
about as much as you can trust anyone else, then. Heck, the Guristas have a refreshing habit of honesty on those few occasions where they ever care to play their hand at all. Give me an unabashed scoundrel over a disingenuous custodian any day.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-05-08 18:32:23 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Trust it as much as you would a Gurista soldier on board your ship.

So... significantly more than I'd trust anyone expressing sympathy for Sansha's Nation?

If a Guristas soldier is on my ship, it's for one of two reasons - he's either there to do me and mine harm, or he's there because I trust him enough to invite him onboard. There's no middle ground and no deception in that.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#9 - 2014-05-08 18:49:18 UTC
Considering how much I shoot Guristas in the face, I guess I'll have to treat this gift very carefully, huh.

I've run some simulations with my engineering crew and it looks like a Stratios-class cruiser can field two of those fighters and math looks pretty good.

Don't really know how they perform in practice, need to run a field test.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#10 - 2014-05-08 19:05:42 UTC
If you'd told me this would be a day I'd agree with Ixiris, I would've laughed at you. But I agree with Ixiris, so I suppose I'm laughing at myself.

That said, testing has begun. I'm having a ground crew dismantle one of them, and then hopefully reassemble it. Another of my pilots has done some simulations on the damage potential when used with a Stratios, as Victorian had indicated, and the numbers were thoroughly impressive.

Hmm.

Time for an extensive physical and psychological battery for the Guristas ground crew and pilot, while we're at it. Scherezad-haani, if you're following this, you have mail.

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Kithrus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-05-08 19:30:30 UTC
Given their rate of fire power I'm saddened that most ships can't use more then 4 of them but all things considered they do make a nice addition to my drone flights.

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.

Esna Pitoojee
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2014-05-08 19:51:48 UTC
I got a set handed to me from CONCORD. Make of that what you will; I'm presuming they're handing us off something they've recovered but don't know what to do with. Then they sit back and wait for one of us to put together a decent strategy for use of the things before they go ahead with mass deployment.
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#13 - 2014-05-08 20:10:02 UTC
I hear a carrier with 15 of them does over 4000 units of damage a second....

-Eran
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#14 - 2014-05-08 20:20:21 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Pilots;

I recently discovered a team of Guristas personnel in one of my hangars, servicing a gift of Gecko-class superheavy drones, and then learned that these have been distributed widely among capsuleers. What in the maker's name is going on here? I know that gifts from institutions are often routed through hangar security without so much as a peep, but every time it makes me twitch and results in a good twenty or thirty personnel being removed from security duty.

Have any of you heard anything about this? Is it-- some sort of recruitment drive? A demonstration of wealth to impress us?

I'm-- just a bit confused, and a bit concerned.


Priano-haani, I suggest you check your privileges.

Just in case.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#15 - 2014-05-08 21:03:25 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
I hear a carrier with 15 of them does over 4000 units of damage a second....

-Eran


Unless carriers have recently begun ignoring bandwidth limitations for the transmission of IFF and targeting telemetry, it is impossible for one to provide services to more than seven Geckos in active flight at any given moment, as each individual Gecko requires approximately 50 Megabits per second of bandwidth. Carriers have a hard limit of 375 Megabits per second.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque

ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#16 - 2014-05-09 00:10:44 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Trust it as much as you would a Gurista soldier on board your ship.

So... significantly more than I'd trust anyone expressing sympathy for Sansha's Nation?

If a Guristas soldier is on my ship, it's for one of two reasons - he's either there to do me and mine harm, or he's there because I trust him enough to invite him onboard. There's no middle ground and no deception in that.


My my, always trying to drag Nation into the conversation when it isn't even necessary. Long ago I realized that vehemence is usually a cloak for some deep seated insecurity, so what is it? Did you catch yourself enjoying the latest fanzine from the Unofficial Master Kuvakei Fan Club? I know I sure did, but I don't have to feel guilty about it and act like I don't.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-05-09 01:46:37 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
It is a Gurista bribe. The tech looks good but I recommend examining the things end to end for malicious intent. Trust it as much as you would a Gurista soldier on board your ship.

Good gurista is a dead gurista.
Besides, TRUSTING a gurista is the most stupid mistake one could make, they will decieve, cheat, scam, betray, rob and maybe even kill you for your trust. Every single one of them.

But this... this is just a piece of equipment.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#18 - 2014-05-09 02:17:04 UTC
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Eran Mintor wrote:
I hear a carrier with 15 of them does over 4000 units of damage a second....

-Eran


Unless carriers have recently begun ignoring bandwidth limitations for the transmission of IFF and targeting telemetry, it is impossible for one to provide services to more than seven Geckos in active flight at any given moment, as each individual Gecko requires approximately 50 Megabits per second of bandwidth. Carriers have a hard limit of 375 Megabits per second.


Minor oversight....dammit....

-Eran
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#19 - 2014-05-09 07:20:19 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Pilots;

I recently discovered a team of Guristas personnel in one of my hangars, servicing a gift of Gecko-class superheavy drones, and then learned that these have been distributed widely among capsuleers. What in the maker's name is going on here? I know that gifts from institutions are often routed through hangar security without so much as a peep, but every time it makes me twitch and results in a good twenty or thirty personnel being removed from security duty.

Have any of you heard anything about this? Is it-- some sort of recruitment drive? A demonstration of wealth to impress us?

I'm-- just a bit confused, and a bit concerned.



The promotionals happen often, though more often around a time of the year that, according to bits and pieces of history I find in archeological digs, was some kind of "festive" period.

Anyway, since security around us is so tight to start with, they don't have problems letting in people who they know are vetted.

Heck they don't even let us wander the stations.

Now, if I can just get the pilot out of those drones and take them for a whirl myself. That would be great. Can't find the skillbook though.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-05-09 08:09:40 UTC
After a few hours of discussion over a tub of petroleum jelly and a few bottles of carbonated water with what I believe to be is one of the pilots of a Gecko I finally managed to extract the information that they came from the, "Highway to the Dangerzone."

I can only assume it's a code-phrase of some sort, but as to who, what, or where this Highway to the Dangerzone actually is, is probably anyone's guess at this point.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

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