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Ore is being harvested 50% faster than tears

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Solecist Project's Alt
Doomheim
#201 - 2014-05-08 17:31:57 UTC
This reminds me of something.

Suicide ganking is on an all time low.

I'm surrounded by idiots who have no clue and only
care for their stats and egos.

Idiots, not caring for the game at all,
while hiding behind lies and bullshit.

And people believe it.

I'm surrounded by idiots.
Dave Stark
#202 - 2014-05-08 17:32:42 UTC
Solecist Project's Alt wrote:
I'm surrounded by idiots.

i told you not to live in a hall of mirrors.
you should listen to me more, sol.
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#203 - 2014-05-08 17:34:12 UTC
Well, I killed 4 navy BCs yesterday, but ingame they only count as 80m instead of the 600m the killboards say.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.

Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#204 - 2014-05-08 17:35:02 UTC
Solecist Project's Alt wrote:
This reminds me of something.

Suicide ganking is on an all time low.

I'm surrounded by idiots who have no clue and only
care for their stats and egos.

Idiots, not caring for the game at all,
while hiding behind lies and bullshit.

And people believe it.

I'm surrounded by idiots.


Easy there, Travis Bickle.
Erufen Rito
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#205 - 2014-05-08 17:38:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Erufen Rito
Dave Stark wrote:
Erufen Rito wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Erufen Rito wrote:
If you guys wanted a clear indication of what makes eve tick, I'd say miners do. Carebear miners at that.


i'd like to know where the indicator is. in addition, explain how it's "clear".

eveonline.com


as i thought, you have nothing to substantiate your claim.

Maybe you don't know how to use a website. It's right there, and the stats are visible if you click on the magic banner that leads to new places. Now, if you want me to do all the work for you, you could've simply said so.

Or maybe you don't know math. 50 is greater than 30, and so on.

Or maybe, just maybe, you are just a troll....but come on, try harder.

This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165

Dave Stark
#206 - 2014-05-08 17:39:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Dave Stark
Erufen Rito wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Erufen Rito wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Erufen Rito wrote:
If you guys wanted a clear indication of what makes eve tick, I'd say miners do. Carebear miners at that.


i'd like to know where the indicator is. in addition, explain how it's "clear".

eveonline.com


as i thought, you have nothing to substantiate your claim.

Maybe you don't know how to use a website. It's right there, and the stats are visible if you click on the magic banner that leads to new places.

Or maybe you don't know math. 50 is greater than 30, and so on.

Or maybe, just maybe, you are just a troll....but come on, try harder.


or maybe you don't understand how evidence works (since you know, you haven't produced any).
i mean, if linking a website was evidence i could win any argument i wanted with the justification of "google.com"
Erufen Rito
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#207 - 2014-05-08 17:41:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Erufen Rito
Dave Stark wrote:


or maybe you don't understand how evidence works (since you know, you haven't produced any).



I don't need to produce any, when I linked you to it. It's not my fault you are unable to think and click on the right button.

So here, out of the kindness of my heart, to those who are handicaped, I produced a link for you. (more like copypasta but whatever, you couldn't do it)

http://www.eveonline.com/11/?utm_source=eveonline.com&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=11th%20anniversary&utm_campaign=11th%20anniversary

(psst 41.43%>28.77%, even if you take into consideration the base number. Completion to goal is what's being measured here)

This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#208 - 2014-05-08 17:41:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Erufen Rito wrote:

Maybe you don't know how to use a website. It's right there, and the stats are visible if you click on the magic banner that leads to new places. Now, if you want me to do all the work for you, you could've simply said so.

Or maybe you don't know math. 50 is greater than 30, and so on.

Or maybe, just maybe, you are just a troll....but come on, try harder.


Why are you arguing semantics in regards to your malfunctioning link?

I offered a legitmate counterpoint and you have ignored it.

If you don't wish to discuss your point of view further, please don't reduce the conversation to personal attacks.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Josef Djugashvilis
#209 - 2014-05-08 17:41:43 UTC
Solecist Project's Alt wrote:
This reminds me of something.

Suicide ganking is on an all time low.

I'm surrounded by idiots who have no clue and only
care for their stats and egos.

Idiots, not caring for the game at all,
while hiding behind lies and bullshit.

And people believe it.

I'm surrounded by idiots.


You talking to me?

This is not a signature.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#210 - 2014-05-08 17:43:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Solecist Project's Alt wrote:
This reminds me of something.

Suicide ganking is on an all time low.

I'm surrounded by idiots who have no clue and only
care for their stats and egos.

Idiots, not caring for the game at all,
while hiding behind lies and bullshit.

And people believe it.

I'm surrounded by idiots.



If you are surrounded by idiots, that makes you someone who managed to be surrounded by idiots. P


As for people being too afraid of their stats, well, a lot of people have stated that killmails are killing the game. I don't entirely agree though. That it's just about kills and not the overall incident is my problem because it screws freighter, blockade runner, and logi pilots - it's just "kill or got killed" and people just knuckle drag over "muh stats".

I've been caught red handed in a BC and still have the 5 man gang run because while they could have turbo-stomped me, each one of them individually ran off because they knew I could take out at least one of them and they didn't want to be "the one" because.... muh stats.


And the people who do everything with one eye on their wallet are the ones being maligned. "Oh you didn't tank your indie because you wanted more yield - therefore you deserve to get ganked because you only care about ISK". Yet, what of these people who care only about their stats? Why are they automagically better? Some of these people who don't tank indies might have done the math and factored in suicide ganking and still see a profit.


Anyway, your post touches on a point I make repeatedly. The game is infested with a kind of aspergian "min/maxer" habit that is interesting to see, but in those who do it, I end up wondering if they are really playing a game or if some kind of OCD is afoot. Maybe Ritalin is involved? I don't know. But imagine what happens if you go into the house of someone with a cleaning compulsion and trash it for the lulz. How do they respond? I've seen the "air" of such a response in local when some of these players get ganked and I have seen gate campers display equal rage when they fail to get their kill. They are the first to state that anyone putting triple stabs on an intie should have their mothers shot, and they do it with such venomous rhetoric that again, like the ISK-aholic in highsec, I wonder what game they are playing.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Erufen Rito
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#211 - 2014-05-08 17:45:07 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Erufen Rito wrote:

Maybe you don't know how to use a website. It's right there, and the stats are visible if you click on the magic banner that leads to new places. Now, if you want me to do all the work for you, you could've simply said so.

Or maybe you don't know math. 50 is greater than 30, and so on.

Or maybe, just maybe, you are just a troll....but come on, try harder.


Why are you arguing semantics in regards to your malfunctioning link?

I offered a legitmate counterpoint and you have ignored it.

If you don't wish to discuss your point of view further, please don't reduce the conversation to personal attacks.

I'm sorry, I was unaware that opening a new tab and typing the website out was too much to ask for. (I'm not sorry though)

This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165

Felicity Love
Doomheim
#212 - 2014-05-08 17:46:09 UTC
... confirming I'm an idiot.... O.o ... send me 1 PLEX and I'll add plenty of drool and gurgling sound effects...

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#213 - 2014-05-08 17:47:32 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Solecist Project's Alt wrote:
I'm surrounded by idiots.

i told you not to live in a hall of mirrors.
you should listen to me more, sol.


Today must be a day that ends in "y".



There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#214 - 2014-05-08 17:47:51 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

Anyway, your post touches on a point I make repeatedly. The game is infested with a kind of aspergian "min/maxer" habit that is interesting to see, but in those who do it, I end up wondering if they are really playing a game or if some kind of OCD is afoot. Maybe Ritalin is involved? I don't know. But imagine what happens if you go into the house of someone with a cleaning compulsion and trash it for the lulz. How do they respond? I've seen the "air" of such a response in local when some of these players get ganked and I have seen gate campers display equal rage when they fail to get their kill. They are the first to state that anyone putting triple stabs on an intie should have their mothers shot, and they do it with such venomous rhetoric that again, like the ISK-aholic in highsec, I wonder what game they are playing.


So... you are saying the knife cuts both ways?

Though suggesting that those with OCD or Aspergers are somehow unwelcome isn't a particularly enlightened view in of itself.

Are you sure it was rage, and not smack/trolling?

Even if it was, all that proves is that there are many people with anger management issues in the pirating community as there are in the mining community.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#215 - 2014-05-08 17:49:51 UTC
Erufen Rito wrote:


I'm sorry, I was unaware that opening a new tab and typing the website out was too much to ask for. (I'm not sorry though)


Ok well then I just have to accept that you don't actually want to add anything civil to the conversation.

Thank you for your input.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Miichael Epic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#216 - 2014-05-08 17:50:43 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

I've been caught red handed in a BC and still have the 5 man gang run because while they could have turbo-stomped me, each one of them individually ran off because they knew I could take out at least one of them and they didn't want to be "the one" because.... muh stats..


That made me laugh lol

What do stats get you? Do they get you isk? Can you buy taco's with the "muh stats"? lol because legit if you can't buy tacos, pay your internet bill or pickup chicks with your stats....I don't see the point in caring about them.

Moral of the story....tacos, girls and internet = LIFE lol (I'm kidding)

but legit, what do the stats even get them? I have ALL KILLS. I've been killed 10-12 times so far, what do "muh stats" get me? I really want some tacos....
Dave Stark
#217 - 2014-05-08 17:52:30 UTC
Erufen Rito wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:


or maybe you don't understand how evidence works (since you know, you haven't produced any).



I don't need to produce any, when I linked you to it. It's not my fault you are unable to think and click on the right button.

So here, out of the kindness of my heart, to those who are handicaped, I produced a link for you. (more like copypasta but whatever, you couldn't do it)

http://www.eveonline.com/11/?utm_source=eveonline.com&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=11th%20anniversary&utm_campaign=11th%20anniversary

(psst 41.43%>28.77%, even if you take into consideration the base number. Completion to goal is what's being measured here)


and now explain how those arbitrary values are in any way balanced or equal.

without them, one group reaching an arbitrary and irrelevant amount before another has 0 meaning and isn't evidence.
Erufen Rito
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#218 - 2014-05-08 17:54:36 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Erufen Rito wrote:


I'm sorry, I was unaware that opening a new tab and typing the website out was too much to ask for. (I'm not sorry though)


Ok well then I just have to accept that you don't actually want to add anything civil to the conversation.

Thank you for your input.

But I did, you decided not to look at it because it was not in a format that would enable you to click and get results.

This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165

Felicity Love
Doomheim
#219 - 2014-05-08 17:55:11 UTC
... okay, okay... special deal for days that end in "Y"... send me 5 PLEX and I'll wear a little white suit that ties up in the back AND I'll drool ... and fart "Yankee Doodle" through a harmonica... ALOT...

O.o

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#220 - 2014-05-08 17:56:15 UTC
Miichael Epic wrote:


but legit, what do the stats even get them? I have ALL KILLS. I've been killed 10-12 times so far, what do "muh stats" get me? I really want some tacos....


As you can see from muh own stats, I dont give a hoot for stats

Though certain WTs who spam my local from time to time seem to be under the impression I feel otherwise

(The fact theirs is Nullblobs and solo miner kills is apparently a badge of honour for em, *shrug*)

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann