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Biomassing character if podded after crime. A counter to ganking.
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cynomakinggirl
No Risk No ISK
#1 - 2014-05-08 09:03:38 UTC  |  Edited by: cynomakinggirl
As it is, ganking gives no risk whatsoever for the attacker, and all risk for the attacked.
The attacker only risks "losing" the potential loot if the drop is unlucky.
To counter this unfarly unbalanced mechanic, highsec NPC medical facilities will refuse to make a clone to whoever has a criminal flag.
If a criminal is podded after a crime, he/she can either chose to pay NPCs a huge amount of ISK per SP to "corrupt" it's way to a new clone, or get his/her character deleted forever.


Unleash the gankers tears!

"The internet is a reliable source of information." - Abraham Lincoln
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2014-05-08 09:05:20 UTC
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-05-08 09:06:07 UTC
The attacked will only lose what they are flying with.
Should someone who was ganked get there clone biomassed for making themselves a gank target?

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2014-05-08 09:12:22 UTC
If you're going to troll at least put some effort into it.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#5 - 2014-05-08 09:17:43 UTC
Yes, unleash severe punishment upon those who actually play this game.

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oohthey ioh
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-05-08 09:19:08 UTC  |  Edited by: oohthey ioh
why do carebears hate gankers so much? so what they ganked you a few times here and there, but they remove items form circulation and generally help the market.

if anything they need more of a incentive to gank, ganking it's at all time low.
Gawain Edmond
Khanid Bureau of Industry
#7 - 2014-05-08 09:22:59 UTC
i think anyone who undocks with a loot ammount making it worth suicide ganking the target should instantly recive criminal flags carebears who run missions in officer fit ships and people who haul high value stuff have it far too easy in this game and it's only ever by luck that they're caught. It should also send out a eve wide notification of the possible value of the loot to everyone with a sec status of -5 or below.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#8 - 2014-05-08 09:25:34 UTC
Something about making EvE "more accessible" to the masses has also brought with it many people who think of EvE as "every other MMO".

The NPE has tried helping with the "hey, you ship is just a gorram tool" thing -- two or three of the missions are "yup, we is gonna blow you up" -- but even that only goes so far -- because people apparently then attribute it to "well, rats can kill me ... OK..." and for whatever reason don't just treat hisec pirate types as "harder, smarter rats".

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#9 - 2014-05-08 09:26:39 UTC
Oh, I just remembered something: recycling characters to avoid consequences of one's actions is not allowed. With this change you would just circumvent this rule and in fact boost whole ganking business. So I guess let's do this.

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cynomakinggirl
No Risk No ISK
#10 - 2014-05-08 09:35:16 UTC  |  Edited by: cynomakinggirl
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Oh, I just remembered something: recycling characters to avoid consequences of one's actions is not allowed. With this change you would just circumvent this rule and in fact boost whole ganking business. So I guess let's do this.


Make it last 1 month.
The NPC medical facility, after refusing to make you a clone, forgets to send a notice to the Amount Of Characters Per Account Police and they still think that your character is alive and well, refusing to allow you to make one more. It's only after a month of inactivity that they get suspicious and do a search to see if the character is still in the EVE Universe, to which they discover it isn't and allow you to make another.

"The internet is a reliable source of information." - Abraham Lincoln
Gawain Edmond
Khanid Bureau of Industry
#11 - 2014-05-08 09:40:23 UTC
cynomakinggirl wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Oh, I just remembered something: recycling characters to avoid consequences of one's actions is not allowed. With this change you would just circumvent this rule and in fact boost whole ganking business. So I guess let's do this.


Make it last 1 month.
The NPC medical facility, after refusing to make you a clone, forgets to send a notice to the Amount Of Characters Per Account Police and they still think that your character is alive and well, refusing to allow you to make one more. It's only after a month of inactivity that they get suspicious and do a search to see if the character is still in the EVE Universe, to which they discover it isn't and allow you to make another.



no because that's a silly idea what if you're a pirate hunter and you've been teaching new pirates that it's a bad idea and you end up losing all your toons and then can't play for a month i think we should just biomas characters who come up with bad ideas like this and then ban the accounts of the people who make them
cynomakinggirl
No Risk No ISK
#12 - 2014-05-08 09:46:10 UTC  |  Edited by: cynomakinggirl
Gawain Edmond wrote:
cynomakinggirl wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Oh, I just remembered something: recycling characters to avoid consequences of one's actions is not allowed. With this change you would just circumvent this rule and in fact boost whole ganking business. So I guess let's do this.


Make it last 1 month.
The NPC medical facility, after refusing to make you a clone, forgets to send a notice to the Amount Of Characters Per Account Police and they still think that your character is alive and well, refusing to allow you to make one more. It's only after a month of inactivity that they get suspicious and do a search to see if the character is still in the EVE Universe, to which they discover it isn't and allow you to make another.



no because that's a silly idea what if you're a pirate hunter and you've been teaching new pirates that it's a bad idea and you end up losing all your toons and then can't play for a month i think we should just biomas characters who come up with bad ideas like this and then ban the accounts of the people who make them


Are you trying to say that now gankers, who stupidly enough get podded in highsec, and do it on all their toons, are the victims?
What about the ganked!? The ganked may have spent a year to accumulate all the wealth he/she is transporting in his juicy industrial.

"The internet is a reliable source of information." - Abraham Lincoln
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#13 - 2014-05-08 09:55:45 UTC
oohthey ioh wrote:
why do carebears hate gankers as much?


Because bullying, terrorism, torture, genocide, vegitarianism, etc. Whatever nonsense "reason" is flavour of the hour.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#14 - 2014-05-08 09:58:07 UTC
cynomakinggirl wrote:
The ganked may have spent a year to accumulate all the wealth he/she is transporting in his juicy industrial.


I too carry all my live savings in my pocket when going out.

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#15 - 2014-05-08 09:59:01 UTC
cynomakinggirl wrote:
Unleash the gankers tears!


I guess you achieved that very quickly. Lol

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My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#16 - 2014-05-08 10:01:32 UTC
cynomakinggirl wrote:

Are you trying to say that now gankers, who stupidly enough get podded in highsec, and do it on all their toons, are the victims?
What about the ganked!? The ganked may have spent a year to accumulate all the wealth he/she is transporting in his juicy industrial.


dnt carry everything u own in one trip. lesson learned. u are now smarter than other carebears. thank the ganker for the valuable education and ur new knowledge advantage over ur peers.

obligitory Hich sec is not safe. the game does not police gankers, its up to u to protect urself at all times.

and welcome to eve.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

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cynomakinggirl
No Risk No ISK
#17 - 2014-05-08 10:08:05 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
cynomakinggirl wrote:

Are you trying to say that now gankers, who stupidly enough get podded in highsec, and do it on all their toons, are the victims?
What about the ganked!? The ganked may have spent a year to accumulate all the wealth he/she is transporting in his juicy industrial.


dnt carry everything u own in one trip. lesson learned. u are now smarter than other carebears. thank the ganker for the valuable education and ur new knowledge advantage over ur peers.

obligitory Hich sec is not safe. the game does not police gankers, its up to u to protect urself at all times.

and welcome to eve.


No I don't want to make high sec safe, nor will this make it safer. On the contrary it will have the opposite effect, it will make highsec unsafer.

"The internet is a reliable source of information." - Abraham Lincoln
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#18 - 2014-05-08 10:12:35 UTC
good for u.

answers still no.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Velicitia
XS Tech
#19 - 2014-05-08 10:48:53 UTC
ban thread, biomass OP.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Mag's
Azn Empire
#20 - 2014-05-08 10:54:18 UTC
No, it's a rather silly idea and based upon a lie.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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