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Aimy Maulerant
DDo Squad Gaming
#1 - 2014-05-07 13:33:55 UTC
If im in a fleet with friends who are at war with another corp, can i fight the warring corp or will i be killed by concord?
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-05-07 13:35:38 UTC
killed unfortunately Sad

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Aimy Maulerant
DDo Squad Gaming
#3 - 2014-05-07 13:38:19 UTC
So i read that i can defend myself but this sounds a little vague if they yellow box i cant shoot first but i can shoot back if they shoot first but will they be killed by concord?
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#4 - 2014-05-07 15:01:16 UTC
Ill just tell it how it is.

Being in a fleet with someone doesn't affect who you can legally shoot. AT ALL.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-05-07 15:50:16 UTC
Aimy Maulerant wrote:
So i read that i can defend myself but this sounds a little vague if they yellow box i cant shoot first but i can shoot back if they shoot first but will they be killed by concord?

You can yellow box eachother as much as you want. Some call it 'the Carebear Stare'. Lol

But CONCORD will have a word with the first guy that redboxes, aka shoots.

If someone shoots you, you can shoot back, but ONLY you can shoot ONLY that guy (until CONCORD obliterates him anyway).

You can, however, remote rep a guy that is legally attacking someone he's at war with. I do not think that 'someone' can legally shoot you in this case, but I'm not sure.

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Aimy Maulerant
DDo Squad Gaming
#6 - 2014-05-07 15:53:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Aimy Maulerant
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Aimy Maulerant wrote:
So i read that i can defend myself but this sounds a little vague if they yellow box i cant shoot first but i can shoot back if they shoot first but will they be killed by concord?

You can yellow box eachother as much as you want. Some call it 'the Carebear Stare'. Lol

But CONCORD will have a word with the first guy that redboxes, aka shoots.

If someone shoots you, you can shoot back, but ONLY you can shoot ONLY that guy (until CONCORD obliterates him anyway).

You can, however, remote rep a guy that is legally attacking someone he's at war with. I do not think that 'someone' can legally shoot you in this case, but I'm not sure.


thanks from what i read the logi will get suspect timer for remote repping meaning anyone can shoot?

yeah i know yellow boxing is fine as i fell into that trap when i was young ;)
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-05-07 16:24:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Gully Alex Foyle
Aimy Maulerant wrote:
thanks from what i read the logi will get suspect timer for remote repping meaning anyone can shoot?


EDIT: I obviosuly have no idea what I'm talking about but luckily for you the guy below me does. Smile

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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#8 - 2014-05-07 16:29:21 UTC
Giving logi to someone engaged in a wardec you are not engaged in yourself, gives you a Suspect timer.
Aimy Maulerant
DDo Squad Gaming
#9 - 2014-05-07 17:25:13 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Giving logi to someone engaged in a wardec you are not engaged in yourself, gives you a Suspect timer.


ok thanks this highsec stuff is pretty confusing think ill stay in null Straight guess there is no other way to assist my friends in the wardec without my corp doing an assist or me leaving my current corp?
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#10 - 2014-05-07 22:02:33 UTC
highsec is hardest place to pvp.
Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-05-07 22:21:00 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
highsec is hardest place to pvp.


hardest and easiest.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#12 - 2014-05-07 22:36:50 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
highsec is hardest place to pvp.


hardest and easiest.


0.0 is easiest, more tools less rules.
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-05-07 23:46:56 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Ill just tell it how it is.

Being in a fleet with someone doesn't affect who you can legally shoot. AT ALL.


This is the important thing to keep in mind. Hisec has some fairly byzantine rules on who is allowed to shoot at or provide assistance to who and under what circumstances, but Fleet status doesn't factor into any of them

This also makes taking any sort of mixed-corporation fleet into Hisec a huge pain in the ****.


To answer your question specifically: being in a fleet with someone doesn't enable any interactions between you and their wartargets. You can't shoot at them and they can't shoot at you; doing so invoked the normal penalty for unlawful aggression in hisec (which is to say, Concord).
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#14 - 2014-05-08 06:28:04 UTC
Aimy Maulerant wrote:
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Giving logi to someone engaged in a wardec you are not engaged in yourself, gives you a Suspect timer.


ok thanks this highsec stuff is pretty confusing think ill stay in null Straight guess there is no other way to assist my friends in the wardec without my corp doing an assist or me leaving my current corp?


Or you going Suspect. Which isnt all that bad. I remember a POS siege where we helped as neutral logi untill we got blapped by our own war targets. We still managed to get the operation past the point where additional logi was needed. Hence, mission accomplished. The ships we sacrificed blew up for a good cause! Lol
Aimy Maulerant
DDo Squad Gaming
#15 - 2014-05-08 11:36:18 UTC
ok thanks for the help ill just stay in null, as said its easier as theres no rules Cool